I don't understand why it matters that the reducing function is also a 
function. Why keep harping on that? It's machines everywhere. Big deal. But as 
Steve and Gary point out re: dancing robots, the reducing function is also 
complicated. When someone who's used to seeing CGI-animations *or* people 
trying to dance awkwardly because there's social pressure to do so but don't 
*feel* whatever they're dancing to, the reflective layer is, following Ashby, 
at least as complicated as the machine doing the thing.

So, the reflective layer truly is a covariate and can't be approximated out. 
The task is to build a machine that acts sufficiently like the extant machines 
(people) in exhibiting what we're calling free will.

On 4/5/21 9:48 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> That agency could be reflective and be correlated with different social 
> outcomes is just another curious covariance matrix.   It’s the attribution of 
> causation from that reflective layer that is pulled out of thin air, because 
> that reflective layer is just another machine.

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