Thanks for the definition. When it comes to regenerative agriculture and forestry, there is no human creation of "new biological parts" or "redesign" in a technological sense. It's about just stopping what we're doing now which is making things worse, and joining nature in supporting its ability to heal itself after human assault. I agree not enough mind-sets have changed yet from routinely referencing our present industrial civilization's need to control, repare, manipulate --to understanding a different way of living on Earth so our species might survive. At the same time, there are those (mostly young) who are part of a growing understanding of how to discovder a (perhaps former) sustainable relationship with our living systems.
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:54 AM Pieter Steenekamp < [email protected]> wrote: > from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology > > *Synthetic biology* (*SynBio*) is a multidisciplinary area of research > that seeks to create new biological parts, devices, and systems, or to > redesign systems that are already found in nature. > > It is a branch of science that encompasses a broad range of methodologies > from various disciplines, such as biotechnology > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biotechnology>, genetic engineering > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering>, molecular biology > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_biology>, molecular engineering > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_engineering>, systems biology > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_biology>, membrane science > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_lipid_bilayer>, biophysics > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophysics>, chemical and biological > engineering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_engineering>, electrical > and computer engineering > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_engineering>, control > engineering <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_engineering> and > evolutionary > biology <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_biology>. > > Due to more powerful genetic engineering > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering> capabilities and > decreased DNA synthesis and sequencing costs > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing>, the field of synthetic > biology is rapidly growing. In 2016, more than 350 companies across 40 > countries were actively engaged in synthetic biology applications; all > these companies had an estimated net worth of $3.9 billion in the global > market.[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology#cite_note-1> > > On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 19:49, Merle Lefkoff <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Marcus, I don't understand your term "synthetic biology." >> >> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:24 AM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> So we move from chemical engineering to synthetic biology. There will >>> always be mistakes. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:05 AM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires >>> >>> >>> >>> Marcus, we've been "experimenting" with our terrestrial biome for at >>> least 10-12,000 years (when the first spade hit the ground). The time for >>> more experiments is over....unless they are experiments that help us >>> understand even more deeply how to restore the Mycelium networks so that >>> the fungi can solve our climate change challenge. This is perhaps the most >>> important task that will save us from extinction. See Merlin Sheldrake's >>> book, "Entangled Life" for explanation. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 8:41 AM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> We won’t realize anything unless the experiments happen. We may not >>> learn from experiments, but that is a different issue than the need for the >>> experiments. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Smith >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:46 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires >>> >>> >>> >>> My father dedicated his life to "forest management" as a professional >>> forester, trained in biology and range/timber management. He retired >>> "early" after 30 years somewhat in disgust over the changing of aesthetics >>> and perspectives of the United States Forest Service. He was dedicated >>> and loyal to the spirit of Aldo Leopold and other early conservationists. >>> He spent multiple multi-week segments every summer leading (most Zuni and >>> Hopi native) fire-crews on the West Coast trying ot protec homes and >>> "valuable timber". We lived on the edge of the first Wilderness (Gila) >>> created (at the behest of Aldo Leopold) for 2/3 of my growing up years. >>> My father died 10 years ago (Alzheimers), was cremated, and we (illegall) >>> spread his cremains in the heart of the Gila with a minor amount of guilt >>> as he was a (nearly) strict rule follower (yet asked for this). Within >>> the year, a serious wildfire complex converged at almost the exact spot we >>> scattered him (woooOoooooo!). >>> >>> Even my Trump-voting (2016) sister and husband are now acknowledging >>> that his life/profession were dedicated to a project that was fundamentally >>> "unwise". They *were* (for the most part) doing the best they knew how. >>> Most everything they did (from stopping wildfires at the first opportunity) >>> to running dual bulldozers across landscapes with a chain between them to >>> clear the juniper trees from a landscape to allow more grass (for cattle) >>> to grow was "well intended", but it was *range* and *timber* management not >>> "grassland" and "forest" management as they called it. The goal was to >>> maximize the "productivity" of the public lands under their management >>> (dept of Agriculture_. The Bureau of Land Management (BLM dept of >>> Interior) was know to be *worse* in the sense that their rules on cattle >>> and mining were much less careful of protecting the landscape and biome. >>> The National Parks were derided by both the Forest Service and the BLM for >>> being "much too restrictive" (no "harvesting of resources"!!!!) >>> >>> And yet NOW we realize how "unwise" all of that was. But in the same >>> breath we suggest that all of our exploitative depradations of the planet's >>> "resources" are necessary and possibly "a really good thing"... and I am >>> sure that in another 20 or 50 years we will be lamenting *all* of the >>> things that today we are promoting wholeheartedly in the name of >>> "progress". >>> >>> This is part of how I became a neo-Luddite. >>> >>> - Steve >>> >>> On 5/25/21 2:50 AM, Pieter Steenekamp wrote: >>> >>> Let's hope they are a bit more wise in managing the wildfires in the >>> future than they were in the 20th century. >>> >>> >>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/14/california-fire-suppression-forests-tinderbox >>> >>> Before this unprecedented era of mega-blazes on the US west coast, >>> California’s forests had a canny, ingenious way of avoiding destructive >>> worst-case forest fire scenarios. By periodically removing the grasses, >>> shrubs and young trees – known as the forest understory – California >>> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/california> avoided fires growing >>> to destructive intensities before the 20th century. The way this was done? >>> Fire. >>> >>> Every five to 15 years, groundfires would burn through the forest, >>> killing off the undergrowth on a regular basis, thus removing the material >>> that can act as tinder and kindle fires. Such groundfires were sparked by >>> lightning or by indigenous people who used sophisticated burning practices >>> to facilitate crop growing and hunting. Because the fires occurred >>> frequently, the understory rarely had time to build up enough combustible >>> material for the fires to reach the canopies of the mature trees – which is >>> what causes the large, devastating fires we are seeing now. As a result, >>> overstory trees might get wounded by the groundfires, but they would rarely >>> get killed. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 10:22, Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Due to climate change there will be more and more wildfires in >>> California, Arizona and New Mexico in the coming years. Drones could help >>> to detect wildfires early. >>> >>> >>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/sensors/remote-sensing/drones-sensors-wildfire-detection >>> >>> >>> >>> -J. >>> >>> >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. >>> Center for Emergent Diplomacy >>> emergentdiplomacy.org >>> >>> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA >>> >>> >>> mobile: (303) 859-5609 >>> skype: merle.lelfkoff2 >>> >>> twitter: @merle110 >>> >>> >>> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> >> >> >> -- >> Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. >> Center for Emergent Diplomacy >> emergentdiplomacy.org >> Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA >> >> mobile: (303) 859-5609 >> skype: merle.lelfkoff2 >> twitter: @merle110 >> >> - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam >> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. Center for Emergent Diplomacy emergentdiplomacy.org Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA mobile: (303) 859-5609 skype: merle.lelfkoff2 twitter: @merle110
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