No, it is male chickens that are culled. Chicken sexer was/is a very real job. Imagine spending all day looking for male genitalia on barely hatched chicks and tossing the ones sporting them into a waste bin for immediate euthanasia.
Female infanticide is absurdly common — across cultures and throughout history. China's one-child laws almost certainly increased the practice, in large part via technology that allowed for in utero or abortive infanticide. The proof was in the marked imbalance between males and females of marriageable age and the discussed but never implemented legitimization/legalization of polyandry. In India it was / is illegal for expecting mothers to get an ultrasound or any other test that might reveal gender of a fetus because that information would increase in utero infanticide. davew On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 7:48 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Boneless chicken breasts come from roosters? > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 8:45 AM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> We neuter many/most male pets and beasts of burden, slaughter many of them >> young (e.g. this is where most of our beef and chicken come from). >> >> We do this for various reasons that are not entirely unrelated to the larger >> conversation here... >> >> On 1/25/22 7:35 AM, David Eric Smith wrote: >>> Never too late, Merle. >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:32 AM, Merle Lefkoff <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, they should have drowned the boys. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 7:27 AM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> But >>>>> >>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_China#20th_century >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Frank C. Wimberly >>>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>>>> >>>>> 505 670-9918 >>>>> Santa Fe, NM >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 7:16 AM Merle Lefkoff <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Dave is right. Development experts have known for a long time that when >>>>>> girls get educated and women hold jobs outside the home they are much >>>>>> more likely to control childbearing. However, the culture must change >>>>>> everywhere, and it happens quite slowly with lots of pushback. Check >>>>>> out the new protest and direct action movement that's happening with >>>>>> young men demonstrating in the streets in S. Korea. ("A Vicious >>>>>> Anti-Feminist Backlash Stuns South Korea", Globe And Mail, 1/22.) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 12:40 AM Prof David West <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of >>>>>>> birth / population control was educating girls, followed closely by >>>>>>> empowering girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I >>>>>>> remember studying this topic way back in the 80s in my anthropology >>>>>>> graduate program. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> davew >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>>>>>>> Merle wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> < China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are >>>>>>>> more urban educated workers, especially women. > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Estimate in Hawken's book was the 6th largest potential reduction for >>>>>>>> CO2 drawdown came from educating girls. His reference was: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1206964 >>>>>>>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.science.org%2fdoi%2f10.1126%2fscience.1206964&c=E,1,dhZqId6BmX_lZAkiZ4KqytELCYK4cwA4xLz977cmeLfMrTYrhP3BmklQPOLEU4fwWN1lRQM2UxbXsMWAXVEDer4Yykb7kz6tIFR9uWjkYw,,&typo=1> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of Merle Lefkoff >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 9:40 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> China's population has stopped growing--primarily because there are >>>>>>>> more urban educated workers, especially women. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:11 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Excellent, Marcus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eric, if it's less than 90% it still would have be significant. Two >>>>>>>>> problems, "God" has tricks for making babies. As for 1 child per >>>>>>>>> couple didn't they "terminate" some babies (not fetuses, feti?), >>>>>>>>> particularly females? My impression is that their population has >>>>>>>>> grown substantially notwithstanding those policies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Frank >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Frank C. Wimberly >>>>>>>>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>>>>>>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 505 670-9918 >>>>>>>>> Santa Fe, NM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 6:38 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Before I launch into a diatribe about why the hell we can't agree to >>>>>>>>>> basic, never mind interesting things: I'd just like to report that >>>>>>>>>> the James Webb telescope is in L2 orbit. Score one for the >>>>>>>>>> negotiating, patient, subtlety-appreciating scientists and their >>>>>>>>>> counterparts in government. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of David Eric >>>>>>>>>> Smith <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 6:01 PM >>>>>>>>>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You know, as I read your characterization, Marcus, it took me back >>>>>>>>>> to Hannah Arendt’s description of feudal Europe and the role of the >>>>>>>>>> Rothschilds and other big Jewish quasi-stateless fixer families in >>>>>>>>>> relation to the feudal lords. Fussy and indirect seems somehow very >>>>>>>>>> close to the right picture of the stateless ones navigating always >>>>>>>>>> through the cracks and seams, compared to the blunt moves of the >>>>>>>>>> ones who had states. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have some discomfort that this doesn’t quite map. Yet it seems >>>>>>>>>> not fully dissimilar. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> SFI sponsorship seems like very much a fideistic declaration. It >>>>>>>>>>> would be interesting to see how that influence network feeds into a >>>>>>>>>>> D.C. influencer network and real money. There are some linkages, >>>>>>>>>>> like Brookings, but leverage-wise it all seems much softer than >>>>>>>>>>> with LANL and the DOE. And it all seems so fussy and indirect >>>>>>>>>>> compared to slapping down a few billion dollars to build a >>>>>>>>>>> Starship. That's the appeal of Musk: I'm f'ing doing this. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of glen >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2022 5:08 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, that ain't true, either. Like Epstein, when you "invest" in >>>>>>>>>>> the SFI or people like Steven Pinker or Bill Clinton, you're simply >>>>>>>>>>> transferring from one store to another ... buying influence. If, >>>>>>>>>>> e.g., the CIA contracts with the SFI to adapt a CAS modeling tool >>>>>>>>>>> into a broad spectrum simulation tool, they are not only buying a >>>>>>>>>>> (questionable) piece of software; they're buying *leverage* over >>>>>>>>>>> people's salaries, loyalty, etc. So those VCs *will* see that money >>>>>>>>>>> again, perhaps much less of it, depending on the efficiency of the >>>>>>>>>>> transaction, or in fringe storage types (able to get past the >>>>>>>>>>> receptionist after eating over-priced peri-Mexican food in order to >>>>>>>>>>> have tea with smart people). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/24/22 15:31, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > Some of them sponsor SFI for goodness' sake! They'll never see >>>>>>>>>>> > THAT money again! >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> glen >>>>>>>>>>> Theorem 3. 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