It seems like handing over too much influence to people who are just BORN to be annoying. Professional back seat drivers.
-----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] by any means necessary Where are the advocacy groups to write *only* steelmen rather than being either corporate/industry lackeys and/or hyper-aggressive activists reframing everything as a tragedy? My sympathies are with the "little guy", the individuals and groups with no voice or power of their own, but too often those who speak up for them get a little shrill and inject yet other agendas than the ones I believe actually represent the real positions and issues of those they claim to represent. It seems to be a structural failing in the very idea of representative government/advocacy? I'm sure I may be being overly critical/cynical here but it feels very difficult for me to sort out what is *really* going on when a widespread or structural bias or harm is identified... it isn't *just* noise/signal ratios, it is multiple competing caricatured? models. I heard a brief clip of an interview with AOC who said she was considering leaving Government and putting her energy/perspective into Direct Action or at least Activism... On 2/15/22 11:02 AM, glen wrote: > I suppose I could go find paid "news" articles from Big Tobacco or the > dairy or meat industry to argue nearly identical points ... or maybe > we could ask BP or Exxon to tell us how environmentally responsible > they are. But why waste my time digesting corporate propaganda? If > they invite some neutral parties to keep an eye on their practices, > that might be worth paying attention to. > > On 2/15/22 09:52, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> https://neuralink.com/blog/animal-welfare/ > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
