Ha! Yeah, "relaxing constraints" is a fantastic euphemism for the kind of abuse 
we see both in polluters and animal abuse. Too bad UC Davis can't just relax its 
constraints. We should head over to the Urban Dictionary and be the first to make the 
relaxing constraints entry.

On 2/14/22 13:28, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Relaxing constraints is one way to smooth an energy surface.    It's also a way to 
compute tightened bounds and accelerate search.     When Musk talks about Texas having 
the "right amount of rules and regulations" I suspect that is the intuition.

https://youtu.be/3N7L8Xhkzqo?t=4673



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From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 1:13 PM
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Nobody's singling out Neuralink. The appropriate treatment of animals is 
standard boilerplate for any testing facility. What I think is fascinating is 
how tech bros tend to de-emphasize ethics (including the ethical treatment of 
animals) and emphasize utopian visions of the future. I suppose this is one 
reason Yudkowsky and the rise of the alignment problem is interesting. It 
evokes the idea that Hume's Guillotine isn't as crisp as we're taught to think. 
It was taken on an interesting tangent in the latest H+ round table where Voss 
and Goertzel disagreed fairly emphatically about whether or not they 
(separately) have infrastructures that *cover* AGI and that continued 
investment in specific AI makes progress toward AGI. On the surface, it seems 
like standard foil between the algorithmists and the humanists (e.g. Penrose). 
But it goes just beyond into obPlectics and open-endedness. Asserting that the 
ethics of some method is somehow epi- is myopic. If Neuralink abuses more 
animals than Synchron, then it should be corrected. But I've heard no evidence 
of such abuse about Synchron. Perhaps Synchron beat Neuralink to FDA approval 
*because* they take their methods, including the ethics thereof, more 
seriously? I wouldn't know one way or another and the definitely not clickbait 
in Business Insider and NYP were the first I'd heard of any bad behavior at all.

On 2/14/22 12:44, Marcus Daniels wrote:
There's a general question of how far is too far with animal testing.    These 
kinds of neuroprosthesis devices could help many people, so I don't see a 
reason to single out Neuralink.

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glen
When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.

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