In California during the summer they have had rolling blackouts or brownouts. In the Bay Area I think they have had nuclear Naval vessels connect to the grid to help. Naval reactors are small compared to power plant reactors but I guess even a little bit helps.
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 4:38 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: > Related to the climate change apocalypse, PG&E has Public Safety Power > Shutoffs that impact especially people that live in high fire risk areas. > People that have experienced shutoffs more than twice can get batteries > reimbursed. [1] > > With regard to the load balancing issue I was thinking more how I could > rationalize a purchase of a car using proceeds from my electricity sales > (as the car sits there). Neighbors’ summer A/C surge powered by my car at > a high (but fair!) rate. > > [1] > https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/save-energy-money/savings-solutions-and-rebates/understand-the-solar-process.page > > On Mar 12, 2022, at 3:00 PM, David Eric Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > It seems like the sales pitch on this is always for emergency backup > power. (And of course, Ford, advertising to Americans, will always go for > the (always-afraid, but still) he-man survivalist meme.) But it seems that > at least a decade ago, and perhaps two, when the need for load balancing to > make wind or solar power at all compatible with current demand schedules, > it was proposed that all these EVs we would be building anyway, should just > be designed as part of the load-balancing capacity. I am surprised I see > so little commentary about a system-level design for load balancing, using > anything that has batteries in it to minimize duplicating and then > under-utilizing storage capacity. > > Or maybe there is such language, and like much else, I just don’t follow > enough to know about it. > > > On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:41 AM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I totally don't need a pickup, but as the apocalypse approaches (pick your > favorite!) this is kind of cool. > > > > https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/03/californias-utility-will-begin-testing-ev-vehicle-to-grid-charging/ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen > > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:43 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: International firm to invest $254M in ABQ > hydrogen factory -- ABQ Journal > > > +1 Even though I have a pickup that I don't use as intended, my > experiments with the motorcycle and bicycle for everyday commuting have > failed for the most part. But I'd push for a compromise within a spectrum > of non-car solutions, a manifold approach like: > > > 1) ban all cars from downtown areas, > > 2) build bike-sized personal transport that doesn't depend on balanced > control, > > 3) optimize for multi-person transport between dense populations and > oft-traveled routes, > > 4) self-driving cars for diaspora into suburban/rural areas. > > > Bicycles/skateboards/scooters don't work for all sorts of reasons (sight, > balance, carpal tunnel, rain/snow/ice, freight, etc.). People movers only > work for some use cases. 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