I can't find any information about that via Google. The last time I was in California during the summer was in the early 80s and I thought I heard about it on the local news.
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 4:43 PM Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote: > In California during the summer they have had rolling blackouts or > brownouts. In the Bay Area I think they have had nuclear Naval vessels > connect to the grid to help. Naval reactors are small compared to power > plant reactors but I guess even a little bit helps. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 4:38 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Related to the climate change apocalypse, PG&E has Public Safety Power >> Shutoffs that impact especially people that live in high fire risk areas. >> People that have experienced shutoffs more than twice can get batteries >> reimbursed. [1] >> >> With regard to the load balancing issue I was thinking more how I could >> rationalize a purchase of a car using proceeds from my electricity sales >> (as the car sits there). Neighbors’ summer A/C surge powered by my car at >> a high (but fair!) rate. >> >> [1] >> https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/save-energy-money/savings-solutions-and-rebates/understand-the-solar-process.page >> >> On Mar 12, 2022, at 3:00 PM, David Eric Smith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> It seems like the sales pitch on this is always for emergency backup >> power. (And of course, Ford, advertising to Americans, will always go for >> the (always-afraid, but still) he-man survivalist meme.) But it seems that >> at least a decade ago, and perhaps two, when the need for load balancing to >> make wind or solar power at all compatible with current demand schedules, >> it was proposed that all these EVs we would be building anyway, should just >> be designed as part of the load-balancing capacity. I am surprised I see >> so little commentary about a system-level design for load balancing, using >> anything that has batteries in it to minimize duplicating and then >> under-utilizing storage capacity. >> >> Or maybe there is such language, and like much else, I just don’t follow >> enough to know about it. >> >> >> On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:41 AM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> I totally don't need a pickup, but as the apocalypse approaches (pick >> your favorite!) this is kind of cool. >> >> >> >> https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/03/californias-utility-will-begin-testing-ev-vehicle-to-grid-charging/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen >> >> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 9:43 AM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: International firm to invest $254M in ABQ >> hydrogen factory -- ABQ Journal >> >> >> +1 Even though I have a pickup that I don't use as intended, my >> experiments with the motorcycle and bicycle for everyday commuting have >> failed for the most part. But I'd push for a compromise within a spectrum >> of non-car solutions, a manifold approach like: >> >> >> 1) ban all cars from downtown areas, >> >> 2) build bike-sized personal transport that doesn't depend on balanced >> control, >> >> 3) optimize for multi-person transport between dense populations and >> oft-traveled routes, >> >> 4) self-driving cars for diaspora into suburban/rural areas. >> >> >> Bicycles/skateboards/scooters don't work for all sorts of reasons (sight, >> balance, carpal tunnel, rain/snow/ice, freight, etc.). People movers only >> work for some use cases. Etc. ≥4 person things like cars have obvious >> problems, but also obvious use cases. >> >> >> Part of the problem, of course, would be to get enough people on board, >> to centralize the plan enough, to make it do any good ... for the climate >> or whatever problems we're trying to solve. >> >> >> On 3/11/22 09:30, cody dooderson wrote: >> >> >> I think a global ban on automobiles would go a long way in GGE, without >> having to resort to nuclear winter and massive population culling. I am >> also a proponent of getting rid of automobiles because I am totally sick of >> them. 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