Beautiful. Now that you've bound the symbols, the task is to transform them
automatically (aka calculate), then read off the implications. I guess there's
more to bind, though. We need some initial conditions, maybe some
discretization, etc. I'm sure a chatbot can help with that. I hooked up a
generic eval() MCP with SimPy access to my local gpt-oss ... but I'm afraid to
open that up to the internet. So you're on your own, there. 8^D
Speaking of Quine(s), has anyone gotten this ouroboros to run?
```
# ruby
l=92.chr;eval s="s=s.dump[r=1..-2].gsub(/("+l*4+"){4,}(?!\")/){|t|'\"+l*%d+\"'%(t .size/2)};5.times{s=s.dump[r]};puts\"# python\\nprint(\\\"# perl\\\\nprint(\\\\\\ \"# lua"+l*4+"nprint("+l*7+"\"(* ocaml *)"+l*8+"nprint_endline"+l*15+"\"-- haskel l"+l*16+"nimport Data.List;import Data.Bits;import Data.Char;main=putStrLn("+l*31 +"\"/* C */"+l*32+"n#include<stdio.h>"+l*32+"nint main(void){char*s[501]={"+l*31+ "\"++intercalate"+l*31+"\","+l*31+"\"(c(tail(init(show("+l*31+"\"/* Java */"+l*32 +"npublic class QuineRelay{public static void main(String[]a){String[]s={"+l*31+" \"++intercalate"+l*31+"\","+l*31+"\"(c("+l*31+"\"brainfuck"+l*64+"n++++++++[>++++ <-]+++++++++>>++++++++++"+l*31+"\"++(concat(snd(mapAccumL h 2("+l*31+"\"110"+l*31 +"\"++g(length
s)++"+l*31+"\"22111211100111112021111102011112120012"+l*31+"\"++co ncatMap("+l*32+"c->let d=ord c in if d<11then"+l*31+"\"21002"+l*31+"\"else"+l*31+ "\"111"+l*31+"\"++g d++"+l*31+"\"22102"+l*31+"\")s++"+l*31+"\"2100211101012021122 2211211101000120211021120221102111000110120211202"+l*31+"\"))))))++"+l*31+"\","+l *63+"\""+l*64+"n"+l*63+"\"};int i=0;for(;i<94;i++)System.out.print(s[i]);}}"+l*31 +"\")))))++"+l*31+"\",0};int i=0;for(;s[i];i++)printf("+l*63+"\"%s"+l*63+"\",s[i] );puts("+l*63+"\""+l*63+"\");return 0;}"+l*31+"\");c s=map("+l*32+"s->"+l*31+"\"" +l*63+"\""+l*31+"\"++s++"+l*31+"\""+l*63+"\""+l*31+"\")(unfoldr t s);t[]=Nothing; t s=Just(splitAt(if length
s>w&&s!!w=='"+l*31+"\"'then 501else w)s);w=500;f 0=Not hing;f x=Just((if x`mod`2>0then '0'else '1'),x`div`2);g x= reverse (unfoldr f x); h p c=let d=ord c-48in(d,replicate(abs(p-d))(if d<p then '<'else '>')++"+l*31+"\" ."+l*31+"\");s="+l*31+"\"# ruby"+l*32+"n"+l*31+"\"++"+l*31+"\"l=92.chr;eval s=\"+ (z=l*31)+\"\\\"\"+s+z+\"\\\""+l*31+"\"++"+l*31+"\""+l*32+"n"+l*31+"\""+l*15+"\""+ l*7+"\")"+l*4+"n\\\\\\\")\\\")\"########### (c) Yusuke Endoh, 2009 ###########\n"
```
On 11/18/25 2:41 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
One of our mutual colleagues and I have a "quantum scheduling" relationship.
This roughly means we are *always in superposition* /(what would X think/feel/say?)/,
but occasionally make overtures to collapse our place-times into an actual coffee/beer/BS
session at one of our usual-suspect locales (all of which are larger than /*h*/)?
Experiment suggests that two adjacent barstools at Tesuque Village Market over the
period of 1hr is roughly our /"minimal action grain"/ size.
Convolving your quine-atom and the planck constant into a
minimal-self-consistent,least-action phase-space formulation?
I(C)=∮Cpdq≈n/h
/
there might be another dimension which is the semantic scope we wander in
at/during that place-time.
My poem of this week was titled /"Salon and Saloon, Concept and Conceit" /and nominally
references this minimal/least space in the idiom of such a "third place"... I won't
burden you with the text.
--
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