On 2 April 2014 15:35, Waldek Hebisch <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> Not so recent: you need to explicitely requect building graphic
> pages.  Just do
>
> make viewports
>
> In the past the command was different, but principle was the same.
> Or when you build instead of 'make' use:
>
> make MAYBE_VIEWPORTS=viewports
>

Thanks, that works and I get the same results that you describe -
there are bugs in some of the commands.  For some reason I had the
impression that I only needed to do 'make viewports'  if I really
wanted to see example graphics in HyperDoc but I did not expect that
it would affect the execution of simple commands like

  DF ==> DoubleFloat
  ...

etc. that do not involve the viewport explicitly.  Also, to execute
this make command you used to have to navigate to another
subdirectory. I guess that is the recent change that you mentioned?

In any case, perhaps what Martin Baker is trying to say is that the
over all design of HyperDoc kind of sucks. For example,, when I click
on the line above hyperdoc opens a very ugly xterm console window and
displays FriCAS input and the resulting output.  The windows is "live"
in the sense that if I want to in addition to clicking on commands
from the hyperdoc window, I can also enter commands just like I would
in the main console session, except I am not able to scroll the output
and I am not able to cut-and-paste from the windows.  I suppose that
is a result of using something like xterm instead a more sensible
terminal emulator.  But then even worse, if I close this terminal
window by clicking X in the top right corner, then ALL of HyperDoc and
FriCAS just disappears!  When I have the patience to play with
HyperDoc I can find several ways to making HyperDoc disappear but
usually the FriCAS main console session is still there with an error
message like:

XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
      after 3398 requests (3398 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

It took a while to figure out that I could type )hd to re-start
HyperDoc again. So now I usually start FriCAS with 'fricas -noht' and
then only start HyperDoc with )hd if I happen to need it.

I do agree however that for many common things HyperDoc is more stable
than it used to be.

On top of this compared to most modern gui applications the user
controls seem poorly laid out and look extremely "primitive" and
awkward.  The side slider bar looks peculiar and does not work the
same way as on other windows on my desktop. I may have been cool in
the 1980's before browsers where even invented but these days it
counts as only barely usable.

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