On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:34:02PM +0200, Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> > Maxima folks were unable to compute anwer and "explained" that
> > this system is too complicated and one should not expect answer
> > from computer.  In FriCAS on my machine it takes 9.5 seconds
> > (answer takes several screens).  In the past I did some
> > experiments with Sympy and largish linear systems with symbolic
> > coefficients which worked fine in FriCAS were too hard for Sympy.
> > Sage has some very good specialized solvers, but AFAIK once things
> > get general enough it sends problems to Maxima or Sympy.
> 
> I would be very much in favour of collecting such "benchmark" examples
> where FriCAS performs better and other systems and make that public so
> that we can have a "selling argument".
> 
> Would you be able to show-case a number of your comparison experiments.

I have put one or two cases on FriCAS Wiki.  However, getting each
to presentable form requires effort and IMO it is better to spent
effort on other things.

> > Of course, there things missing from FriCAS, but IMO FriCAS
> > is pretty strong as "general purpose CAS".
> 
> Yes, yes, once you know FriCAS, it is easy to see that. But other people
> are not easily convinced. It's like convincing someone to change from
> emacs to vi or the other way round. And we know that learning FriCAS is
> not that easy so we should put more emphasis on showing a lot of
> convincing arguments.

I think that we need more examples and "recipes": seeing how to
do something that user want to do is IMO more convincing than
other arguments.

-- 
                              Waldek Hebisch

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