Im suprised, someone on the internet who *doesn't * hate me :p On Sep 27, 2011 11:29 PM, "GloW - XD" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Laurelai , > Oh i agree it is still a terrible precedent to be set.. I dont even know > where, legally, i stand anymore... > It is rather disturbing, nomatter WHO it was laurela. > I am all for the hatred against the VPN provs, and this is not just > happening here, and i made a BIG statement about this, and privacy, in my > channel on efnet, first as i saw it. > > Then saw a torrentfreak feed,of someone who was an owner of a huge torrent > site, was handed to authorities, not by the hoster, no... but by the > frigging payment handler, ie paypal or alertpay most likely. > > This is not good, it makes a grey could now over what is 'anon' and what > isnt. and thats a bad thing for us all. > To much fraud is causing this, thats plain and simple.Abusing places like > Sony, and, major banks, only make the authorities turn to politics, whom in > turn can bully with federal and state laws of ANY country, i think this is > the dangerous part wich is affecting lulzsec members or whoever was apart of > it, and, i mean efnet is no recruiting grounds for decent hkrs. > Simple as that, you know it, maybe thru word of mouth ok, but not alone by > being in channels but that network, is one federal hideout now..and, that is > every channel, if it is not being spied (yea they have a module > m_spychannel.c or similar, wich, they actually had without realising, asked > a friend, to code for them. > This was rejected by me/her,but i believe they have the module running now. > So, what was to stop them adding theyre own hidden spy mode to it :s look at > what they did to my old channel #haqnet, they introduced drinemon and a > bunch of other things, when it could have been simply worked out with > words.. but anyhow, i will not brood on the past, i hope this is mutual > Laurelai, I have nothing bad to say about you, and in turn, expect the same. > Respect for respect dear. > I do agree with you about the situation and, as you can see, am not holding > 9undisclosed) crappy things wich happened along time ago, over one idiotic > kid, on efnet, whom now i know you do not associate with. So, i want that, > to be laid rest now.. please. > And, we can only hope that the greater common sense will prevail and > hopefully, places will be forced to proove anonymity in some way, wether > that be by showing people email interaction with requester's of peoples > info, or anything simple even, wich would be then a standard for VPN, I do > not use them but, if i bought anonymous vpn, id expect exactly that,without > political interaction and grey areas about who and what is now legal and not > legal on the internet, on chatrooms, and on even websites. > ok, thats plenty, cheers! > xd > > > On 28 September 2011 13:41, Laurelai <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 9/27/2011 10:10 PM, sandeep k wrote: >> >> Lolz members was really insane ,i m not why to use that crapy hma. >> On Sep 27, 2011 8:36 PM, "Ferenc Kovacs" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > yeah, and usually the same goes for calling others "kids" ;) >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:30 PM, GloW - XD <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> #pure-elite , rofl... yes indeed :P >> >> hehe... nice story tho...funny about the elite channel thing... why do >> ppl >> >> tag themselves as elite? usually when they are not... >> >> ohwell, thats efnut :s (irc sucks) >> >> xd >> >> >> >> >> >> On 27 September 2011 19:03, Darren Martyn >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hope this sends correctly, new email client and all... But seeing as it >> is >> >>> an international investigation many people have been bending over >> backwards >> >>> to assist LEO on this. HMA and perfect privacy were the VPN's of choice >> for >> >>> them it would appear, oh, and he was part of the #pure-elite channel on >> that >> >>> IRC server, and hence, considered by LEO and others as "Part of >> LulzSec". >> >>> >> >>> TL;DR, this is nothing new. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Laurelai Storm < [email protected] >> > >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> And the guy wasnt even a part of lulzsec >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sep 26, 2011 10:37 PM, "Jeffrey Walton" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>>> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Ivan . <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/VPN-provider-helped-track-down-alleged-LulzSec-member-1349666.html >> >>>> > Though HMA claims they complied with a court order, it looks as if >> >>>> > they facilitated a law enforcement request. The US and the FBI have >> no >> >>>> > jurisdiction in the UK. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Jeff >> >>>> > >> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >>>> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >>>> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ferenc Kovács >> > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> From my understanding they used the channel as a possible recruitment >> ground, though only 6 people were officially a part of lulzsec , i find it >> disturbing that law enforcement considers being in an irc channel tantamount >> to being a part of lulzsec. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>
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