never did... was only for one buttcheek kid that i was alittle pissed and thinking things wich, prolly were wrong at the time... I am adult enough to apologise for what happened back then, and hopefully it is just, cool. :) cheers, your loved by many, you just have many trollers to :sp take care , xd
On 28 September 2011 14:32, Laurelai Storm <laure...@oneechan.org> wrote: > Im suprised, someone on the internet who *doesn't * hate me :p > On Sep 27, 2011 11:29 PM, "GloW - XD" <doo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Laurelai , > > Oh i agree it is still a terrible precedent to be set.. I dont even know > > where, legally, i stand anymore... > > It is rather disturbing, nomatter WHO it was laurela. > > I am all for the hatred against the VPN provs, and this is not just > > happening here, and i made a BIG statement about this, and privacy, in my > > channel on efnet, first as i saw it. > > > > Then saw a torrentfreak feed,of someone who was an owner of a huge > torrent > > site, was handed to authorities, not by the hoster, no... but by the > > frigging payment handler, ie paypal or alertpay most likely. > > > > This is not good, it makes a grey could now over what is 'anon' and what > > isnt. and thats a bad thing for us all. > > To much fraud is causing this, thats plain and simple.Abusing places like > > Sony, and, major banks, only make the authorities turn to politics, whom > in > > turn can bully with federal and state laws of ANY country, i think this > is > > the dangerous part wich is affecting lulzsec members or whoever was apart > of > > it, and, i mean efnet is no recruiting grounds for decent hkrs. > > Simple as that, you know it, maybe thru word of mouth ok, but not alone > by > > being in channels but that network, is one federal hideout now..and, that > is > > every channel, if it is not being spied (yea they have a module > > m_spychannel.c or similar, wich, they actually had without realising, > asked > > a friend, to code for them. > > This was rejected by me/her,but i believe they have the module running > now. > > So, what was to stop them adding theyre own hidden spy mode to it :s look > at > > what they did to my old channel #haqnet, they introduced drinemon and a > > bunch of other things, when it could have been simply worked out with > > words.. but anyhow, i will not brood on the past, i hope this is mutual > > Laurelai, I have nothing bad to say about you, and in turn, expect the > same. > > Respect for respect dear. > > I do agree with you about the situation and, as you can see, am not > holding > > 9undisclosed) crappy things wich happened along time ago, over one > idiotic > > kid, on efnet, whom now i know you do not associate with. So, i want > that, > > to be laid rest now.. please. > > And, we can only hope that the greater common sense will prevail and > > hopefully, places will be forced to proove anonymity in some way, wether > > that be by showing people email interaction with requester's of peoples > > info, or anything simple even, wich would be then a standard for VPN, I > do > > not use them but, if i bought anonymous vpn, id expect exactly > that,without > > political interaction and grey areas about who and what is now legal and > not > > legal on the internet, on chatrooms, and on even websites. > > ok, thats plenty, cheers! > > xd > > > > > > On 28 September 2011 13:41, Laurelai <laure...@oneechan.org> wrote: > > > >> On 9/27/2011 10:10 PM, sandeep k wrote: > >> > >> Lolz members was really insane ,i m not why to use that crapy hma. > >> On Sep 27, 2011 8:36 PM, "Ferenc Kovacs" <tyr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > yeah, and usually the same goes for calling others "kids" ;) > >> > > >> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:30 PM, GloW - XD <doo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> #pure-elite , rofl... yes indeed :P > >> >> hehe... nice story tho...funny about the elite channel thing... why > do > >> ppl > >> >> tag themselves as elite? usually when they are not... > >> >> ohwell, thats efnut :s (irc sucks) > >> >> xd > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 27 September 2011 19:03, Darren Martyn > >> >> <d.martyn.fulldisclos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hope this sends correctly, new email client and all... But seeing as > it > >> is > >> >>> an international investigation many people have been bending over > >> backwards > >> >>> to assist LEO on this. HMA and perfect privacy were the VPN's of > choice > >> for > >> >>> them it would appear, oh, and he was part of the #pure-elite channel > on > >> that > >> >>> IRC server, and hence, considered by LEO and others as "Part of > >> LulzSec". > >> >>> > >> >>> TL;DR, this is nothing new. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Laurelai Storm < > laure...@oneechan.org > >> > > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> And the guy wasnt even a part of lulzsec > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Sep 26, 2011 10:37 PM, "Jeffrey Walton" <noloa...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >>>> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Ivan . <ivan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/VPN-provider-helped-track-down-alleged-LulzSec-member-1349666.html > >> >>>> > Though HMA claims they complied with a court order, it looks as > if > >> >>>> > they facilitated a law enforcement request. The US and the FBI > have > >> no > >> >>>> > jurisdiction in the UK. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Jeff > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >>>> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >>>> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >>>> > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Ferenc Kovács > >> > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> > >> From my understanding they used the channel as a possible recruitment > >> ground, though only 6 people were officially a part of lulzsec , i find > it > >> disturbing that law enforcement considers being in an irc channel > tantamount > >> to being a part of lulzsec. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > >> >
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