On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Dude VanWinkle wrote:

> I am pretty sure that you are allowed to photograph anyone or anything
> that is in the public in the united states. Anyone who is in the
> public can be looked at, or drawn/photographed in the public because
> you have no expectations or rights to privacy in public ;-)

Maybe your folks aren't enforcing their copyright. You can look at someone 
else's intellectual property, but if you then make a derivative work based 
on it, then that's breach of copyright. That's true irrespective of where 
that intellectual property happens to be.
 
> In the interest of full disclosure I should mention that there are
> people who are getting their cameras confiscated for photographing
> bridges here under the PATRIOT act
 
 
> -JP
> 
> On 12/4/06, Richards, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When I lived in London,  the CCTV cameras were everywhere.
> >
> > Anyone can request video from any camera, and I am assuming they do not have
> > to contact everyone in the requested footage for permission before complying
> > with the request.
> >
> > Isn't this about the same, only more convenient for the information
> > requestor?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drsolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 4:06 PM
> > To: Larry Seltzer
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [funsec] FW: Windows Live and Privacy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Larry Seltzer wrote:
> >
> > > >>Also, if you are well known, you are a public figure and dont have any
> > > control over what pictures are taken of you and dont have much control
> > > over what people say about you.
> > >
> > > Hey, everyone knows Dr. Solomon
> >
> > I doubt if you could find more than one person in a million who knows me.
> >
> > Interesting story. THis happened about 16 years ago, when Dr SOlomon's
> > Antivirus Toolkit" was the premier product in many countries.
> >
> > I went to my 10-yo daughter's school pantomime, which was very good. As we
> > left afterwards, a little gorl came up to me and said "I know who you
> > are!"  "Ah," I said, preening a bit, even an under-10 kid know me!
> >
> > "You're Angela's dad."
> >
> >
> > Ever since then, it's been a family joke, whenever I get a bit big-headed,
> > I get reminded who I am. "You're Angela's dad".
> >
> >
> > Epilogue.
> >
> > So, when Angela graduated, we went down to her uni as proud parents to
> > watch the ceremonies and congratulate her. Afterwards, there was a
> > cheese-and-wine do at the English Literature faculty, and she dragged us
> > along to that, too. And a guy came up to me at the party, and said "I know
> > who you are". Yeah, yeah, I thought, been there, done that, I'm Angela's
> > Dad. "You're Dr Solomon, wrote the Antivirus Toolkit". Apparently, he'd
> > been one of the people who resold the software to end-users.
> >
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