No wonder you want the right to bear arms, in the USA. How else are you going to defend yourself from the family member who loses their temper and picks up a handy gun?
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Richard M. Smith wrote: > The murder rate in the U.K. is about 5 times lower than the U.S.: > > > > http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2007/04/17/us-and-uk-murder-rate-and-weapo > n/ > > In the UK (population c. 60.5m) there were 765 reported incidents of murder > for 2005-6 (Home Office, undated) - a rate of about 1.1 per 100,000. > > In the US (population c. 298.5m) there were an estimated 16,137 homicides in > 2004 (FBI, 2006a) - a rate of about 5.4 per 100,000. Of these, 10,654 were > carried out with guns (FBI, 2006b). > > The murder rate in the U.S. has dropped a good bit in the '90s because we > are putting more people in prison. In fact, the U.S. has the largest prison > population on the planet. > > Richard > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tomas L. Byrnes > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:07 PM > To: Imri Goldberg; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [funsec] The right to bear arms & make salad > > > > Since banning guns didn't stop the increase in violent crime, nor universal > surveillance, more removing the rights of the law abiding must be the > solution, right? > > > > What happened to the fundamental principle in Common Law that no freeman may > be debarred the use of arms? > > > > The framers of the US Constitution could see the writing on the wall after > the Restoration, hence they made sure that our pre-existing rights were > fully codified. > > > > And don't tell me this isn't about security. Physical security, the right, > which without the means is meaningless, to defend your life, liberty and > property, is the basis of all other rights. > > > > > _____ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Imri Goldberg > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [funsec] The right to bear arms & make salad > > For Brian Loe and Drsolly: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7508404.stm > > "Most fatal stabbings involve a weapon that is easy to obtain and sharp with > it - a kitchen knife. Would stopping the sale of long blades with sharp > points help save lives?" > > I think it's even more funny when you consider the fact that it's in the UK. > > Cheers > Imri > > (hat tip to Alisa > <http://alisainwonderland.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/%D7%AA%D7%A2%D7%A6%D7%A8% > D7%95-%D7%90%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%9D-%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%99-%D7%A8% > D7%95%D7%A6%D7%94stop-the-world-i-want-to/> for the link.) > _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
