Isreal airport security is absolutely intense. You have to arrive at least 3 hours before your flight. Every single person is questioned (or interrogated, depending on your viewpoint). Pat-downs, searches, etc. It really is quite an experience for a person used to the TSA.
Implementing Isreal-like security would make travel a) unbearable and b) incredibly time consuming. Alex -----Original Message----- From: Charles Miller [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:00 PM To: Paul Ferguson Cc: Alex Eckelberry; funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model I thought Schneier's post made no sense. To summarize: Israelis do a good job with airport security. The US is much larger than Israel. Therefore, the Israeli method would not work in the US. Huh? I was with you for the first 2 steps, but that last statement doesn't follow from the first two.... Charlie On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Alex Eckelberry > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> However, they do two things in Isreal which, if JUST those two are >> done >> well, would obviate the need for removing shoes, spectacles, fluids >> and >> all other idiocy that we go through now: >> >> >> >> 1. They have a kick-ass intelligence service and >> >> 2. They have security people observing passengers and asking >> questions. >> >> >> >> These two points would have stopped every single potential bomber, >> including the 9/11 hijackers, Richard Reid and the underwear >> bomber. And >> we would all be a lot happier, saner and travel would actually be a >> pleasure. >> >> I would also add that we should move to having portable security >> checkpoints at the gate areas themselves, like in Vienna, rather than >> right in front of the terminal. Easier to manage small groups of >> people >> entering an airline than thousands of passengers per hour. >> > > "...the Israeli airport security model does not scale." - Bruce > Schneier > > http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/adopting_the_is.html > > I'm not one to simply parrot Schneier's nuggets of wisdom, but as > outlined > in the blog post above, I agree with this. > > $.02, > > - - ferg > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) > > wj8DBQFLQ584q1pz9mNUZTMRArFtAJ9PNkoDBmM/zMu0oNnNvS1Ju7KQ+wCfSX05 > Ty2gims1z8xz3b5IZTGMCY8= > =nuz/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson > Engineering Architecture for the Internet > fergdawgster(at)gmail.com > ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
