Blowing up mid-air would also make it rather unbearable wouldn't it? Somehow I don't think that you'd make it from point A to point B if that were the case. What's 3 hours versus 3 (or more) bits and chunks?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > Isreal airport security is absolutely intense. You have to arrive > at least 3 hours before your flight. Every single person is > questioned (or interrogated, depending on your viewpoint). Pat- > downs, searches, etc. It really is quite an experience for a person > used to the TSA. > > Implementing Isreal-like security would make travel a) unbearable > and b) incredibly time consuming. > > > Alex > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Miller [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:00 PM > To: Paul Ferguson > Cc: Alex Eckelberry; funsec > Subject: Re: [funsec] Adopting the Israeli Airport Security Model > > I thought Schneier's post made no sense. To summarize: > > Israelis do a good job with airport security. > The US is much larger than Israel. > Therefore, the Israeli method would not work in the US. > > Huh? I was with you for the first 2 steps, but that last statement > doesn't follow from the first two.... > > Charlie > > On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Alex Eckelberry >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> However, they do two things in Isreal which, if JUST those two are >>> done >>> well, would obviate the need for removing shoes, spectacles, fluids >>> and >>> all other idiocy that we go through now: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. They have a kick-ass intelligence service and >>> >>> 2. They have security people observing passengers and asking >>> questions. >>> >>> >>> >>> These two points would have stopped every single potential bomber, >>> including the 9/11 hijackers, Richard Reid and the underwear >>> bomber. And >>> we would all be a lot happier, saner and travel would actually be a >>> pleasure. >>> >>> I would also add that we should move to having portable security >>> checkpoints at the gate areas themselves, like in Vienna, rather >>> than >>> right in front of the terminal. Easier to manage small groups of >>> people >>> entering an airline than thousands of passengers per hour. >>> >> >> "...the Israeli airport security model does not scale." - Bruce >> Schneier >> >> http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/adopting_the_is.html >> >> I'm not one to simply parrot Schneier's nuggets of wisdom, but as >> outlined >> in the blog post above, I agree with this. >> >> $.02, >> >> - - ferg >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.3 (Build 5003) >> >> wj8DBQFLQ584q1pz9mNUZTMRArFtAJ9PNkoDBmM/zMu0oNnNvS1Ju7KQ+wCfSX05 >> Ty2gims1z8xz3b5IZTGMCY8= >> =nuz/ >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> -- >> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> Engineering Architecture for the Internet >> fergdawgster(at)gmail.com >> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. > > > _______________________________________________ > Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. > https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec > Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. Adriel T. Desautels [email protected] -------------------------------------- Subscribe to our blog http://snosoft.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
