Flash is dead.  HTML5 will render it obsolete. Heck, you can even use
youtube via html5 now and it's far superior.

www.youtube.com/html5

J

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Alex Eckelberry
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  I agree with your points.
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> I’m not an Apple guy (at all).
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> But I’m dammed impressed with this Ipad.
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> (Yeah, the Flash things sucks, but whatever, it’s what it is.)
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> Alex
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Joel Esler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:24 AM
> *To:* Dan Kaminsky
>
> *Cc:* <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [funsec] Apple has a new toy
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>
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> My point in saying that was that Windows 7, with touch controls is not a
> touch OS.  If you've tried to use Windows 7 with your finger, it's
> essentially a mouse pointer under your finger.  It's inelegant,
> it's imprecise, and hard to use.  Apple took the time to figure out how
> people would use an OS that is touch, and they invented the iPhone and the
> iPod touch and continually refine it.
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>
>
> Make no bones about it, I'm an Apple guy, and apologist.  I've used Windows
> Vista and Windows 7 with touch enabled on a touch device, and it's not even
> close to the experience that you get on an iPhone or any of the future Apple
> devices that will be touch enabled (not just the iPad, but the Macbooks).
>
>
>
> A touch OS is different from a regular OS.  A regular OS you navigate with
> a keyboard and mouse, a touch OS you navigate with your finger, (or several
> fingers).  You can do things in a touch OS that you can't do in a regular OS
> and Microsoft has not figured that out.  yet.  Even if you use natural
> devices like ink (a pen based device to navigate your OS), it's still a
> "mouse pointer".
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> Not saying they won't.  But they will.  We are on the edge of OS
> development.  We are going away from the "folder" "file icon" type of OS and
> computers that you navigate with your keyboard and mouse into a whole new
> field of OSes and devices.
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Dan Kaminsky <[email protected]> wrote:
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> What's the bright line?
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> On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Joel Esler <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  But Windows 7, despite what MSFT is trying to do, is not a touch OS.  The
> iPhone OS *is* a touch OS.
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> J
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> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dragos Ruiu <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 28-Jan-10, at 3:06 PM, Hubbard, Dan wrote:
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> The gOOglePAD will have flash support, but it most likely will be a fake
> codec.
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> The Nokia minilaptop, which I just finally saw/held a real version of, is
> at about the
> same price point as the iPad, runs Win7 and has a 3G connection but has
> real kb.
> They are in the same weight range and I would argue are competing for the
> same
> usage/market.
>
> cheers,
> --dr
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