*laughs* All y'all who hate on Flash really need to play with it through HaXe. It's really much nicer once you abandon that IDE.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Joel Esler <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh come on Dan, let me live in my fantasy, you know, the one where it all > works out in the end... > > J > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Dan Kaminsky <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hahahahahahahaha >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Joel Esler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Flash is dead. HTML5 will render it obsolete. Heck, you can even use >> youtube via html5 now and it's far superior. >> >> <http://www.youtube.com/html5>www.youtube.com/html5 >> >> J >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Alex Eckelberry <<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I agree with your points. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m not an Apple guy (at all). >>> >>> >>> >>> But I’m dammed impressed with this Ipad. >>> >>> >>> >>> (Yeah, the Flash things sucks, but whatever, it’s what it is.) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* >>> <[email protected]>[email protected][mailto:<[email protected]> >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Joel Esler >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:24 AM >>> *To:* Dan Kaminsky >>> >>> *Cc:* < <[email protected]>[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [funsec] Apple has a new toy >>> >>> >>> >>> My point in saying that was that Windows 7, with touch controls is not a >>> touch OS. If you've tried to use Windows 7 with your finger, it's >>> essentially a mouse pointer under your finger. It's inelegant, >>> it's imprecise, and hard to use. Apple took the time to figure out how >>> people would use an OS that is touch, and they invented the iPhone and the >>> iPod touch and continually refine it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Make no bones about it, I'm an Apple guy, and apologist. I've used >>> Windows Vista and Windows 7 with touch enabled on a touch device, and it's >>> not even close to the experience that you get on an iPhone or any of the >>> future Apple devices that will be touch enabled (not just the iPad, but the >>> Macbooks). >>> >>> >>> >>> A touch OS is different from a regular OS. A regular OS you navigate >>> with a keyboard and mouse, a touch OS you navigate with your finger, (or >>> several fingers). You can do things in a touch OS that you can't do in a >>> regular OS and Microsoft has not figured that out. yet. Even if you use >>> natural devices like ink (a pen based device to navigate your OS), it's >>> still a "mouse pointer". >>> >>> >>> >>> Not saying they won't. But they will. We are on the edge of OS >>> development. We are going away from the "folder" "file icon" type of OS and >>> computers that you navigate with your keyboard and mouse into a whole new >>> field of OSes and devices. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Dan Kaminsky < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> What's the bright line? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Joel Esler < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> But Windows 7, despite what MSFT is trying to do, is not a touch OS. >>> The iPhone OS *is* a touch OS. >>> >>> >>> >>> J >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dragos Ruiu < <[email protected]>[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 28-Jan-10, at 3:06 PM, Hubbard, Dan wrote: >>> >>> The gOOglePAD will have flash support, but it most likely will be a fake >>> codec. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Nokia minilaptop, which I just finally saw/held a real version of, is >>> at about the >>> same price point as the iPad, runs Win7 and has a 3G connection but has >>> real kb. >>> They are in the same weight range and I would argue are competing for the >>> same >>> usage/market. >>> >>> cheers, >>> --dr >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> World Security Pros. Cutting Edge Training, Tools, and Techniques >>> Vancouver, Canada March 22-26 <http://cansecwest.com> >>> http://cansecwest.com >>> Amsterdam, Netherlands June 16/17 <http://eusecwest.com> >>> http://eusecwest.com >>> pgpkey <http://dragos.com/>http://dragos.com/ kyxpgp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joel Esler >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >>> <https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec> >>> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >>> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Joel Esler >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Joel Esler >> >> > > > -- > Joel Esler >
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