You see though… I don’t care how big of a raise the CEO got, as that contributes to the high cost of Hostess as well…. but the UNION demanded pay contracts contribute more to the final price of the items….
Both those items will cause a company to go bankrupt, as Hostess has done… the final straw that caused them to close the doors was the Union wanting to go on strike, even though the owners said “go on strike and we’ll shut the place down and lock the doors”…. They even gave them 2 days of strike I believe before drawing a line in the sand “ 5pm today if you’re still on strike we shut down for good”…. The arrogance of the union cause the demise of Hostess… ALL unions are the same, they are no longer needed and should be removed completely…. Let free enterprise dictate survival…. Little Debbie is a perfect example… no unions, better management solutions… lower costs to the end consumer…. THEY’RE still in business and Hostess with BIG unions, and fairly poor management caused them to go bankrupt…. You know what else, I’d flip my middle finger to any government official that mandates that I arbitrate with anyone to keep my company open…. It’s MY company, Fuck the government telling me that I have to negotiate with anyone… I set my rules in MY company, if people don’t like it tough shit, they can work somewhere else…. If I want to shut down MY company the government (national or local) has no right to mandate I keep my doors open… Contracts with the workers are a different story, if I had one with them, I’d invoke the buy out clause in their contract and then close my doors….. Other than that I have no opinion on the subject ☺ Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 From: Stephanie Daugherty [mailto:sdaughe...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:48 AM To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) Cc: rmsl...@shaw.ca; funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] Twinkipocalypse averted Not sure exactly how much of the fault can be placed on the union here. Union also previously accepted pay cuts and benefit cuts at the same time that upper management salaries rose exponentially - I can see why they'd be willing to play chicken when the last time the "we're going to go out of business if we don't cut pay" card was played the CEO got a huge raise. Management also looted profits while building up debt. http://www.salon.com/2012/11/20/vulture_capitalism_not_unions_killed_twinkies/ On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) <michael.blanch...@emc.com<mailto:michael.blanch...@emc.com>> wrote: You know what, I kinda want Hostess to completely go out of business.... just so they can say a big F.U. to the union and the arrogance that they have.... Little Debbie can buy the Twinkie and Ho-Ho's and Funny Bonez rights and produce them at half the price because they're a non-union shop! Michael P. Blanchard Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 32 Coslin Drive Southboro, MA 01772 -----Original Message----- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org<mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org> [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org<mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org>] On Behalf Of Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:16 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org<mailto:funsec@linuxbox.org> Subject: [funsec] Twinkipocalypse averted Apparently, Hostess and the union have agreed to mediation, so the end of the world is not yet. (Honestly, when was the last time you ate a Twinkie? Come to think of it, I don't believe I ever *have* eaten a Twinkie ...) ====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca<mailto:rsl...@vcn.bc.ca> sl...@victoria.tc.ca<mailto:sl...@victoria.tc.ca> rsl...@computercrime.org<mailto:rsl...@computercrime.org> You are going to have a spiritual experience. It's called `Death' - Preston Manning at Regent College, 20120125 victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm<http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm> http://www.infosecbc.org/links http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/ http://twitter.com/rslade _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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