Nick Wrote:
>I think you have forgetten about the 1995 Tokyo subway sarin attack...
>
>   htttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway
>
>Or do you consider 13 dead, dozens badly injured and many hundreds with 
>temporary vision problems a "miserable failure"?

No I did not forget about that attack, I remember it.  Yes, it was tragic for 
those attacked, please don't think I'm heartless...
>From the eyes of the attacker, yes it was a miserable failure... Even at that 
>time I was amazed there were only 13 dead... so I started researching... this 
>type of attack is difficult to pull off, and often backfires on the 
>attacker.... there were over a thousand people in that subway and they 
>accomplished only 13 dead?  That's far from what the media portrays an attack 
>like this to be.  Would I want to be there during such an attack, hell no! LOL

These guys do not have the *very best* of deployment methods, and that subway 
station was a damned near text-book, ideal location and didn't' accomplish what 
the attackers envisioned I'm sure...  which is a good thing to those folks on 
that subway platform!

 Mike B


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Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec) wrote:

> The whole "gas attacks" are not really easy to pull off in the real
> world...  there are a number of attempts that failed miserably by
> terrorist groups or individuals in the past....  you just need too
> much gas for it to be effective... 

I think you have forgetten about the 1995 Tokyo subway sarin attack...

   htttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin_gas_attack_on_the_Tokyo_subway

Or do you consider 13 dead, dozens badly injured and many hundreds with 
temporary vision problems a "miserable failure"?

That said, the fact that most other attempted such atatcks have been 
mush less successful does suggest that this is likely to be a 
problematic "attack" model.

Other agents with longer-term effect but that require incredibly tiny 
amounts of agent per victim to be successful (ricin; anthrax maybe?) 
might be better choices but have historically shown themselves to be 
extremely difficult to suitably aerosolize for the kind of distribution 
such an attack would require, with probably only the very best military 
bio-weapons labs having shown the capability of coming close.



Regards,

Nick FitzGerald


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