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By &quot;faking&quot; them, do you mean using them, or viewing 
them?<br>
<br>
<b>Using Client (or Session) variables (ie, Session stealing)<br>
<br>
</b>If I come into a CF site with another user's CFID and CFToken, then I
will be using their client variables (or session variables, if I have
those turned on).&nbsp; This does not mean I can &quot;see&quot; them, or
know their values.&nbsp; But I can &quot;pretend&quot; I am another user,
for as long as that session is active or authorized.&nbsp; Generally, the
other user must have recently logged on, and the hacker is just
continuing the session.&nbsp; This is a universal web problem, and is not
limited to ColdFusion.&nbsp; The main way around this is to use HTTPS
(Secure HTTP), which prevents most &quot;session ID&quot; stealing, since
even cookies are transported behind the encrypted algorithm.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
There are reams of information in this area, which I am not even prepared
to speak on....<br>
<br>
<b>Viewing and Changing Client Variables:<br>
<br>
</b>A hacker would have to upload and run their own CF code, see
revealing error messages (or cause them to happen), or run various other
&quot;inside&quot; hacking tricks before he knew or could change the
value of any client variables.&nbsp; This is much harder to do, but once
done, can be much more damaging.<br>
<br>
There are reams of information in this area, which I am not even prepared
to speak on....<br>
<br>
<b>Client Variables in a Database:<br>
<br>
</b>If you store them in your DB, then they are only as secure as your DB
is.&nbsp; How secure is your DB?<br>
<br>
At 06:46 PM 10/6/00 -0400, Josh wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite cite>Does anyone know offhand how secure client
variables are? I'm assuming that as long as CF is set to store them in
the registry or a database, they are basically secure from faking.<br>
Can anyone think of a scenario where a web user could fake some client
variables other than CFID and CFTOKEN(and of course, how the rascals
would do so), to obtain access to something<br>
secured with client vars?<br>
<br>
Josh Diehl<br>
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