Enough! Please carry on this discussion at fbcommunity!

-----Original Message-----
From: John Farrar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Design Needed


Mr. Brown,

Long term is exactly the type of problems it creates. Look at dairy
farmers, conglomeration and consolidation has changed the nature of
dairy production from a farm environment to a factory environment. It is
now hard for someone to get into the dairy business. The long term
effect is a clear issue. The other issue is I doubt this person would
work for the wages he pays these foreign workers. He also does not
understand the environments these people must work in... when you pay
factory production houses, you may be simply paying the owner of the
business... the actual person doing the labor does not see what is
paid... and remains in poverty! It, in the long term again, is not good
for the people in most of these countries.

John

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/23/02 09:46PM >>>
Hmmm well I think this thread is going a little beyond the scope of
business and way beyond the scope of fusebox. I will say in Marc's
defense that any and all businessmen whether they are developers or
whatever will try to get work done at a low rate. I see no problems with
this, and I know from experience that in the long run you get what you
pay for. Marc let it be known that the templates were to be very
"generic" and for a qualified graphics person that it would only take a
short time. I for one know that even the most experienced graphics
designers do not make that much money and I will even include web page
designers who only know html and layout stuff. Several designers already
have several templates that they have created and just show you what
they have already designed. This way they do not actually have to come
up with a new design but just a pre-existing one. I suppose this is what
free enterprise is all about.









Doug Brown
----- Original Message -----
From: "doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Design Needed


> True, you made your point. you are a cheapskate.  It is probably
a given
> that you are not working at those rates, so I guess you should
be proud.
>
> But, guess what?  You would never be considered on any of my
out-sourced
> projects, regardless of your rate. but then, I would never ask
you to
> contribute to any of my charities either.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Funaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:03 PM
> Subject: RE: Design Needed
>
>
> To try and quash this misplaced thread for good --
>
> My offer couldn't have been TOO horrendous, given I had over 20
people
> respond, willing to help us out.
>
>
=
>
>

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