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With
that particlar client though it's all relative to his view. Once you send out
your website to get indexed to a million places it just takes time. So you have
customer a that spends a ton of money with consultants and search engine safe
url's and I have customer b that does a link exchange program, no ses url's.
They will both get results, they will both take time, except customer b has more
cost and has a little processor overheard for ses urls, and not as good log
reporting, whereas customer b spent little money and has meaningful log reports.
2 years ago search consultants were worth something, but ever since google set
the bar higher and determined that keywords really don't mean anything a lot of
the more popular search engines have had to follow that and find better ways to
analyze websites. I bet your client has a lot of people linking to him saying go
here for such and such they have a good site. That is where he really gets his
traffic from.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer
Extraordinaire
I
have one particular client who gets nearly *all* his business from seach
engine referrals. He spends a fortune on search consultants, optimizing
his keywords etc. I was surprised but he *is* making money. Try telling him
that some search engines don't matter...
So
why do you bother using SES urls? Granted there are search engines out there
that don't spider dynamic sites, but how much longer could those really be
around anymore?
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer
Extraordinaire
It does suck - like I said, I ended up writing my own log files and
my own analyzer. The reports I need are not quite as in-depth as
what Webtrends offers, but they work for me.
I did not realize that, why bother even using ses url's then. I
thought they were supposed to help with reporting. I am gonna have to
redo that site now. At least using non SES url's I have the option of
products eventually decoding the url stream. This totally
sucks.
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web
Developer Extraordinaire
I think that part is actually the http_referer (which I get
too). What do you show for an actual http get of a page?
This one looks like it's a page hit for
threelogos.jpg.
Here is a site I have using ses urls, and it is showing
everything after index.cfm
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web
Developer Extraordinaire
I use SES URLs, so where you have http://127.0.0.1/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.products&ndx=244&sec=1&cat=6,
I would have http://127.0.0.1/shop/index.cfm
since I get nothing after index.cfm with SES. If I use a
"normal" query string, then I would get exactly what you do.
I have been able to get Webtrends to show me the query string, but
it was not without difficulty. Unfortunately, I don't
remember how I did it - there's a screen somewhere where you can
set up a bunch of individual URLs to look for, and I think that's
where I did it. It did take a f'n lifetime though, since I
had to set up almost every possibility.
Here is a sample from my logfiles, I have
all of the default webtrend suggested logging checked. Are you
missing any of this, it seems to me that it is catching
everything a user does on my end, what is different on
yours?
#Software: Microsoft Internet Information
Services 5.0
#Version: 1.0
#Date: 2002-05-08
14:10:25
#Fields: date time c-ip cs-username s-sitename
cs-method cs-uri-stem cs-uri-query sc-status sc-bytes cs-bytes
time-taken cs-version cs-host cs(User-Agent) cs(Cookie)
cs(Referer)
Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web
Developer Extraordinaire
The base problem is that IIS does
not log PATH_INFO. Nothing to do with webtrends at
all.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 09,
2002 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Web
Trends
Shouldn't
the real solution come from Webtrends? Maybe the FB Steering
Committee could open negations with Webtrends on behalf of
the ever-growing fusebox community to create an FB3 plugin
or something for
Webtrends.
-- Jeffrey
Marsh
-----Original
Message-----
From: Gallant, Ron
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Sent: Thursday, May 09,
2002 6:25 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Web
Trends
Well
my company uses webtrends, we just kinda plug into that. Not
a whole lot of options. other then scratching FB3. Yah
right. lol
Thanks
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