writing to/from WDDX is the solution. It's easy to do, in fact, I think
there are both custom tags and UDFs folks have put together to make it easy.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Dahlstrom [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:41 AM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject:      RE: forcing user to login
> 
> If you come up with a way of easily writing a complex structure to a
> database type varchar or text without using WDDX, please share.  I've run
> into the same thing, and found that I could only get it to work if I did
> convert it to/from wddx.
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Troy Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:31 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>       
>       
>       So let me make sure I have this straight.  If I use CLIENT
> VARIABLES, I cannot use the structure that I'm currently keeping in a
> SESSION VARIABLE without performing some type of WDDX conversion back and
> forth?
>        
>       -T
>        
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Richard Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>               Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:38 PM
>               To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>               
>               
>               My 2 cents. I think using client variables for the security
> aspect is great. But I also know that usually the bottleneck in an
> application are those darn database calls. Considering this, I think it
> would handicap you greatly to limit your thinking one way or the other
> exculsively. I think even in a clustered enviroments, you would benifit
> moving client variables that have extensive calls to session variables for
> the pupose of reading within the app. 
>                
>               Rick
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Jeff Chastain
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                       Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:10 PM
>                       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                       Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>                       
>                       
>                       For the original question ... I tend to build a
> fuseaction (checkLogin) that I can use cfmodule to call and check the
> users credentials.  That way the actual check code is encapsulated in the
> login circuit (i.e. my current circuit only needs to know the user is
> logged in, not how to check for it).    With the cfmodule call, I can also
> put it in individual fuseactions rather than trying to secure a whole
> circuit.   So far it seems to work well and nobody has offered a reason
> yet not to do so (I can already here them coming ;-))
>                        
>                       On the second point, I as well have always stuck to
> client variables.   The primary reason is just being lazy - I did not want
> to have to mess with locking session or app. variables.   I have not had
> to deal with a clustered environment, but that would be a definite reason
> to avoid them.   I have been debating trying session variables again now
> that MX does not require locking, but my client variables work fine - why
> would I need session variables?
>                        
>                       -- Jeff
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                       Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:25 PM
>                       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                       Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>                       
>                       
>                       I know the question wasn't directed at me, but as I
> only use client vars, I think I can add an answer.
>                        
>                       Ease of use.
>                        
>                       No locking.  Ever. I don't feel the need to use
> application or server scoped variables either.  What little I may loose by
> not using them, I make up for in performance.  No variables maintained in
> memory, no fear of those variables getting corrupted.  It's client
> variables, stored in a DB for me all the way.
>                        
>                       Tim.
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Troy Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                       Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:39 PM
>                       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                       Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>                       
>                       
>                       Drew,
>                        
>                       I'm curious, other then having clustered
> environments, was there anything else that lead you to use CLIENT vs.
> SESSION variables?
>                        
>                       -T
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Drew Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>                       Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:49 PM
>                       To: Fusebox List
>                       Subject: Re: forcing user to login
>                       
>                       
>                       I used session then at the last Fusebox conference
> got hammered about questions regarding it in the session I gave about
> using Fusebox for Enterprise applications when I was talking about this
> security app that I had built.
>                       Now I use a client variable, session variables are
> dangerous in clustered environments.
>                       
>                       And to answer your question, I put mine at the top
> of the fbx_switch page just before my cfswitch begins.
>                       
>                       -Drew Harris
>                       
>                       On 5/31/02 4:17 PM, "Tom Schreck"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>                       
>                       
> 
>                       Where's the best place to put the logic to check for
> the presence of a session variable to determine if the user should be
> forced to login?  The session variable indicated the user has logged in.
> The absence of one indicates the user needs to login.  I've tried the
> fbx_Setting in the root circuit, but it's not working.
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       Thanks - 
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       Tom Schreck
>                       
>                       817-252-4900
>                       
>                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       I have not failed.  I've found 10,000 ways that
> won't work.
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       - Thomas Edison
>                       
>                       
>                       
> 
> 
> 
> 

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