Yup, dat am true.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Murray [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:31 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: forcing user to login
> 
> So let me make sure I have this straight.  If I use CLIENT VARIABLES, I
> cannot use the structure that I'm currently keeping in a SESSION VARIABLE
> without performing some type of WDDX conversion back and forth?
>  
> -T
>  
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Richard Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>       Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:38 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>       
>       
>       My 2 cents. I think using client variables for the security aspect
> is great. But I also know that usually the bottleneck in an application
> are those darn database calls. Considering this, I think it would handicap
> you greatly to limit your thinking one way or the other exculsively. I
> think even in a clustered enviroments, you would benifit moving client
> variables that have extensive calls to session variables for the pupose of
> reading within the app. 
>        
>       Rick
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Jeff Chastain
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:10 PM
>               To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>               
>               
>               For the original question ... I tend to build a fuseaction
> (checkLogin) that I can use cfmodule to call and check the users
> credentials.  That way the actual check code is encapsulated in the login
> circuit (i.e. my current circuit only needs to know the user is logged in,
> not how to check for it).    With the cfmodule call, I can also put it in
> individual fuseactions rather than trying to secure a whole circuit.   So
> far it seems to work well and nobody has offered a reason yet not to do so
> (I can already here them coming ;-))
>                
>               On the second point, I as well have always stuck to client
> variables.   The primary reason is just being lazy - I did not want to
> have to mess with locking session or app. variables.   I have not had to
> deal with a clustered environment, but that would be a definite reason to
> avoid them.   I have been debating trying session variables again now that
> MX does not require locking, but my client variables work fine - why would
> I need session variables?
>                
>               -- Jeff
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                       Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:25 PM
>                       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                       Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>                       
>                       
>                       I know the question wasn't directed at me, but as I
> only use client vars, I think I can add an answer.
>                        
>                       Ease of use.
>                        
>                       No locking.  Ever. I don't feel the need to use
> application or server scoped variables either.  What little I may loose by
> not using them, I make up for in performance.  No variables maintained in
> memory, no fear of those variables getting corrupted.  It's client
> variables, stored in a DB for me all the way.
>                        
>                       Tim.
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Troy Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                       Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:39 PM
>                       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                       Subject: RE: forcing user to login
>                       
>                       
>                       Drew,
>                        
>                       I'm curious, other then having clustered
> environments, was there anything else that lead you to use CLIENT vs.
> SESSION variables?
>                        
>                       -T
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Drew Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>                       Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:49 PM
>                       To: Fusebox List
>                       Subject: Re: forcing user to login
>                       
>                       
>                       I used session then at the last Fusebox conference
> got hammered about questions regarding it in the session I gave about
> using Fusebox for Enterprise applications when I was talking about this
> security app that I had built.
>                       Now I use a client variable, session variables are
> dangerous in clustered environments.
>                       
>                       And to answer your question, I put mine at the top
> of the fbx_switch page just before my cfswitch begins.
>                       
>                       -Drew Harris
>                       
>                       On 5/31/02 4:17 PM, "Tom Schreck"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>                       
>                       
> 
>                       Where's the best place to put the logic to check for
> the presence of a session variable to determine if the user should be
> forced to login?  The session variable indicated the user has logged in.
> The absence of one indicates the user needs to login.  I've tried the
> fbx_Setting in the root circuit, but it's not working.
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       Thanks - 
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       Tom Schreck
>                       
>                       817-252-4900
>                       
>                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>                       
>                       
>                       I have not failed.  I've found 10,000 ways that
> won't work.
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       - Thomas Edison
>                       
>                       
>                       
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 

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