How can you put "revenge" as No 1, Only few societies
allow that semi-legally, such as Sardinia or Afganistan.
Death penalty is going towards extinction eventually.
If there were no poverty/unemployment/insecurity,
competition for resources,
there wouldn't be ethnic conflict, there weren't any in Europe/US
at times of rise in standard of living for the bottom -
very rare periods.   
There is no such thing as a 
definable, constant  "human nature",  since homo sapiens appeared.
The social environment defines our behaviour, which changes 
primarily with the social environment and not with the 
natural environment.  

Eva Durant

> Unless you're "into" Hegel or Freud (things turning into their
> opposites, etc.), this thesis just won't fly.  Item: There is 
> a group of people on the Internet (at newsgroup: alt.castration,
> if I remember right), who are "into" the benefits of castration.
> Also, there's some sociological studies which show that a
> lot of people don't really like sex, etc.  
> 
> This is not to say
> that *a lot* of human behavior is not motivated by sex (But I'd
> cast my vote for: (1) revenge, and (2) power, first, however; or
> maybe: (1) power and (2) revenge -- with sex being #3, perhaps...
> -- Nietzsche saw some things pretty clearly....)
> 
> Sex simply cannot explain "ALL application of human
> intelligence", *especially* in those felicitous cases
> where a person's sexual (and, more broadly: intimacy) needs
> are fully satisfied.  Not *all* (just maybe 98%) of 
> culture is what Freud called
> "sublimation" (Al Lingis, in his book _Excesses_, has a chapter
> on a sexually non-repressed high-culture in medieval Cambodia,
> for one example).  "The British Empire was... acquired
> in a fit... of absence of women", but not Khajuraho.
> 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------
> > 
> >                      RIVETS FOR SEX
> >                       by Jay Hanson
> > 
> > Once upon a time there was a spaceship in which "rivets" were
> > used for currency.  Why rivets?  Because on this particular
> > spaceship, one could trade rivets for sex!
> > 
> > SPACESHIP POLITICS
> > Those individuals who were best at pulling rivets out of the
> > spaceship hull -- the "Pullocrats" -- had the most political
> > power because they controlled the most sex.  As might be
> > expected, "pulling rivets" became the most-talked-about and
> > most-envied measure of personal worth.
> > 
> > GOD REVEALED IN EACH TRANSACTION
> > Unsure of their moral justification, the Pullocrats employed
> > "Pulling Priests" (or "PPs") to search Holy Scripture for the
> > truth.
> [snip]
> 
> Actually, I think you missed an important part
> of the story.  The adults told all the young people that
> sex was *bad* (and, of course, that masturbation
> would turn you into a turnip --> if you were *lucky*...).
> The adults told all the young people that they should 
> apply themselves to *pulling rivets*, instead.
> And what happened to the rivets the kids pulled?
> Why, of course, (and here we reconnect with your part
> of the story) -- the adults took the rivets
> from the kids and traded them for sex (and they
> arrested Peewee Herman for playing with his rivet...)....
> 
> A pox on all prudes!
> 
> \brad mccormick
> 
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