> Democracy and Capitalism are founded on the premise that people know what's
> best for themselves -- that people can make "rational" choices to reach
> desired ends. That premise has been tested and found to be false.
>
"Capitalism was founded"? Excuse me, but "it happened", there was no
conscious involvement. Democracy can only work if there are
1. People educated to be able to and be confident to have opinions
on all decisionmaking issues.
2. They have all the information easily available for all
decisionmaking
3. They can see the direct consequence of theexecution of their
decisions
4. they have instant recall of elected representatives if their
decisions are not implemented.
Only give up democracy if it has REALLY been tried and failed.
even than, first weigh up the alternatives...
> >Athens existed -- at least for a while. It provides
> >"proof of concept".
>
> Affixing an undefined label to period in Greek history is not hypopthesis
> testing -- it's not science. Popper said it best:
>
> " What the scientist's and the lunatic's theories have in common is that
> both belong to conjectural knowledge. But some conjectures are much better
> than others..." -- Sir Karl Popper, THE PROBLEM OF INDUCTION
> http://dieoff.org/page126.htm
>
The greeks defined their democracy and it worked for them in the set
limitation of their times. I though history is a science that uses
written sources as data. Why shouldn't we except this?
Our admittedly limited bourgois democracy is still far better than any present and
past tyrannies and leads us for better future versions. We are
humans, we are learning from the mistakes of the past, that is what
science is for. "the nothing is real" stuff is sad. Reality is there,
whether we chose to analyse it and change it or not.
Eva
> Jay
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