Perhaps I don't understand, if so, please enlighten me.  On Oct 22, 1997
President Clinton gave a major speech on the Environment which I have
commented on.  On Oct 24, 1997, giving a major speech on the upcoming visit
of the President of China, he outlined 4 critical areas of American
concern.  The trade deficit, human rights, missed the third one and the
fourth was the statement, " China is the second largest producer of
greenhouse gases after the US."  He then spent several minutes discussing
the importance of China and the US reaching an agreement on CO2 emissions
at the upcoming Kyota Conference in Japan.

With only one response from an Australian lady, there has been no comment
to this post.  Am I wrong in  seeing the significance of this, are you all
ruminating like cows chewing on your cud, or is it more important to
discuss the trivial topic we have all commented on regarding the two basic
assumptions taught in an obscure Economics class?

For years the US government has dodged the Environmental issue allowing
other governments like Canada to be remiss in their Rio promises.  Now, in
the space of one week, the President has highlighted the CO2 emissions
problem in two major speeches.  The newspapers hardly comment, the
environmentalists haven't said anything significant, FW has been remarkably
silent.

The question that occurs to me, is what piece of information has been put
on President Clinton's desk that caused him to venture into the minefield
of the Environment?  Sure, fringe groups and authors have been screaming
for years and have tons of stats and they have not moved the government to
act except to deny.  It was only a few years ago, that President Bush
refused to commit the US to reducing emission targets in Rio. (I'm going on
memory here)  Business is still against it claiming it will ruin the
economy, the Republicans are against it and promise to hold it up in the
Congress and the Senate.  What does Clinton know that would cause him to
get involved in all the political flak?

Have any of you thought this through.  America's prosperity is largely
based on keeping the cost of non-renewable resources lower than it's
competitors in Europe and Japan. (Read Jay Hanson's essays)  They have very
little reserves left in North America based on their consumption patterns. 
By raising the cost of fuel and increasing the cost of pollution, even to
the moderate levels Clinton is suggesting, will totally change the US
economy.

Think of this and please correct my reasoning if it is wrong.  Costs go up
through pollution controls and fuel costs.  Business has three choices. 
One, it can increase prices, passing the costs on to the consumer which
means less disposable income in the marketplace which will lead to
bankruptcies.  Two, they can cut costs like labour and overhead causing
more unemployment which lowers the amount of purchasing income in the
economy.  Three, they can absorb the costs by reducing profit.  The third
option is most disagreeable to business because it will impact the stock
market which is over leveraged on Company earnings, which will cause a drop
in share price, which will lower total Company value.  This lowering of
Company assets will cause many lenders to re-evaluate the credit positions
of Companies and in many cases will create the need for all or a portion of
outstanding loans to be paid off as the assets of the Company's have been
reduced and therefore their collateral is worth less.  Business leaders
have to be shaking in their boots in my opinion.

Politicians are in no better place.  If they support President Clinton's
goals, many of their constituencies are going to suffer increased
unemployment, bankruptcy and a lower standard of living.  Who can get
re-elected on that platform.  Without re-election, no power, no pension and
no job.

I can only conclude that someone came into Clinton's office with a set of
figures that haven't been released to the public yet which are truly scary
and the choice politically was to lead from the front or allow the public
to know and answer for refusing to lead.  The other choice may have come
from business and I alluded to it before.  The figures are bad, but
business is not ready to deal with it yet and by putting forth a weak
response, they hope to confuse the issue by the argument of what should the
size of the response be.  While everyone is arguing about seating
arrangements in the lifeboat, the ocean liner is sinking.  The ultra rich
and corporate elite feel that even though the problems may be terrible,
they have enough wealth to insulate themselves while the rest of us suffer.

The smoke in Indonesia, the collapse of Thailand's currency, the 30% drop
in value of the Hong Kong exchange, the stagnation in Japan are all current
problems in the Pacific Rim and when you add in famine in Korea, potential
famine in Indonesia (today's Ottawa Citizen) the transfer of Hong Kong to
China, all these issues are of major potential for calamity. 

In Europe, we have massive unemployment, major currency problems as
countries try and meet the EU standards for Euro-currency.  France and
Italy trying a 35 hour work week.  Germany limiting the number of immigrant
workers, Bosnia, a time bomb waiting to go off, Russia in sad disarray with
crime and poverty of immense proportions, there is no island of stability
in Europe and with all those problems, they are willing to embark on major
environmental change beyond what President Clinton is offering.   What do
they know that we don't know yet?

The Middle East is still a mess.  Israel and the Arab world continue to
teeter on the brink of war.  Iran, Iraq and Syria all may experience major
political change in the next few years.  Moslem extremists are killing
wantonly in Algeria, Saudi Arabia may have succession troubles if someone
in the Royal family dies and the majority of the worlds oil is still there.
 This is like having the community bank in a neighborhood of gang warfare,
hardly the most stable place for the non-renewable energy we all need.

India and China have populations of over 1 billion people each with no food
reserves, El Nino about to change the weather patterns over the next 18
months and the government mandate of growth based on the use of
non-renewable resources.  It's even scary to think about.

Now, I know this list is for FutureWork and this is a lot about politics. 
However it is within the political, environmental, economic spheres that
work is performed.  In my opinion, Clinton's two speeches are indications
of change of major proportions happening right now - in Oct 1997.  Perhaps
everyone is in shock.  In my opinion, I don't think we know all the facts
yet and that they are going to be very scary. What do you think? , ,,,  ave
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