Brad McCormick, Ed.D. wrote:
> ...  I think Habermas's main point is that any project of
> predictive "social science" can
> succeed only on condition that the persons whose behavior it is
> attempted to predict *be kept in ignorance of the experimental setup*.   . . . 
> In other words, in principle, causal prediction cannot be
> successfully applied to persons who are included in the
> dialogical space of the experimenter ...     . . . 
> Habermas's argument is that we can either have
> empirical/predictive social sciences or we can have a human
> community ...   . . . 
> ...  The project of empirical/predictive social
> science logically depends (as a necessary but not
> sufficient condition!) on keeping the persons about which the
> predictions are made *in the dark* ...  

I certainly see the point of this critique of "social science" (or, perhaps, 
its pretensions or intentions). But even in the most desirable human 
community, we will still have, indeed, require a set of reasonably reliable 
*expectations* about each other's conduct in various circumstances. Doesn't 
this knowledge about each other and the life of our community constitute a 
"social science" or the elements of such?  Wouldn't at least some of it 
resemble empirical (even causal) "laws" about us, granting the reflexivity 
(and thus time & place boundedness) I was pointing to?  

An example occurs to me. Couldn't I perfectly well *participate* in the 
discovery that I act within a number of social roles -- teacher, father, 
husband, etc. -- and that my conduct with respect to these is reasonably 
predictable? That this is so does not make me a passive unknowing *object* of 
an alienating social science.  

What is Habermas's (or whoever's) view about this sort of (let's call it) 
"self-constituting" social knowledge?  

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