On 5/10/2010 7:02 PM, Christoph Reuss wrote:
>   the difference
> between man-made and natural:
>    
There is no difference as man is 100% natural. Your picky tricky 
definitions are becoming tedious. The finite lifespan of life forms 
(that I am certain about and so stated) INCLUDES both individual AND 
species lifespans as I didn't exclude either. As far as I'm concerned, 
you are making up definitions that suit you. I am, and have always been 
UNCERTAIN about the future beyond that statement. Any coming rough times 
are probabilities as I expressly stated in the early posts on peak oil 
and semantics.

> It would be faster and ethical to remove Predators from power

You are the one who is certain --about the perps. I probably agree 
(judgment) with you re some of them; so make a list of those you want 
eliminated! Otherwise please tell us your genius solution to the 
problematique that doesn't depend upon terminator action.
> You bend your definitions beyond making sense -- killing/sterilizing
> humans by man-made criteria is murder/genocide, not natural selection.
>    

I've said zero about termination/liquidation...EVER. Another strawman.

> Progress can also achieve "fewer people suffering in the future" -- even
> if there are MORE people --, but without committing crimes, and faster.
>    
Really? Please tell us how. Why don't you tell us your solutions instead 
of building a strawman on me.. My position is clear: reduction of 
population to numbers which are not capable of destroying the habitat, 
using up stored and renewable resources, and which minimize violent 
conflict.

I'll give double the $500 at least this year but to MY charities. All 
you seem to do do is gripe. Am I certain life will go on? Yes, until it 
hits various lifespan constraints. That is what I said all 
along.(finite) What have you said? Seems to me: kill the perps and 
convince the vast majority of humans to behave like you: voluntary 
simplicity. Fat chance. Want to bet?

Steve

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