I don't buy this art-begets-economic growth one little bit, even though it's been fashionable in the UK for some years. We have had quite a rash of literary and music festivals, avant-garde museums, strange edifices and grotesquely large statuary (such as Angel of the North) but there's no evidence that any permanent economic residue remains.

Historically, the great periods of artistic development have always followed economic prosperity. In pre-industrial times, the great cities where the arts and sciences flourished were all convenient dispersal points on trade routes (particularly sea ports). In the heyday of the industrial revolution in this country, art and music flourished exuberantly in the big manufacturing cities of the north of England -- Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds, Liverpool -- at the expense of London. Even in pre-historic times the evidence points to the vast development of much more effective hunting tools at around 40,000BC, some thousands of years before the appearance of arts such as cave painting, music and figurines.

Keith

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Thanks Barry,



I remembered his first name, Harry. Googled Harry, Canadian Economist and the National Endowment of the Arts and up it popped. Harry Hillman Chartrand. It was from the Reagan era. Americans for the Arts have also done similar studies and the Port Authority of New York documented what I was telling about the size of the Arts sector. They include all of the jobs stimulated by the arts as well as the performance jobs themselves. Someone told me it was now up to 14 billion but I havent been able to corroborate that. Thanks again.



REH



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Ray, I don't know the economist you're talking about, but you and Chris may be interested in the following two links:



<http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/410812_culture_and_commerce.pdf>http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/410812_culture_and_commerce.pdf



http://www.florida-arts.org/resources/economicimpactofthearts.htm



The Florida paper contains numerous links to fairly localized studies. All of these studies come to the same conclusion - that artistic efforts in any area have a strong, positive impact on economic development. I remain unconvinced about any of the offered causal explanations, but the observation that the arts and economics are linked is now well established.



Barry









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Yes Arthur. Thank you for that. I would add that if the Artist is paid for his work eleven dollars go back into the economy for every one dollar invested in the Artist. It goes back as stimulus. It was a Canadian economist who proved this to our NEA and to Reagan and stopped him cold in his tracks when he was trying to disband our NEA. I forget the economists name. Anyone on the list know who that would be?



REH



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A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:



The artist brings something into the world that didn't exist before, and he does it without destroying something else. -John Updike, writer (1932-2009)



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