It is the last para in the article that caught my attention.

 

 

In this election season, the politicians who are really serious about
creating jobs and bringing down
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/03/AR201009030
1979.html> unemployment won't be the ones screaming about tax cuts, or
stimulus or some imagined government takeover of the economy. They'll be the
ones talking about how to make the American economy competitive again. 

 

The US economy was moving along and was more or less competitive.  The great
change happened when competition was opened with countries with dramatically
lower wages, labour standards, environmental standards, etc.  Against this
the US lost ground.  Opening the door to China, first  with Walmart and then
with others following quickly to take advantage of the cost structure abroad
has given lower cost products of all kinds to Western consumers at the cost
of lost jobs across a broad range of industries.

 

I really can't see how the American economy can become competitive again
until a few things happen: living standards and wages decline in the US;
wages and living standards rise in China, India, etc.  Or as Keith continues
to say there is a dramatic new consumer technology which leads to a new
industry in the West and which remains in the West long enough to invigorate
the entire economy.  

 

So the trouble is largely self-inflicted in my view.  Short term gains (in
price of consumer and a range of industrial products from low cost
producers) is now leading to long term pain as jobs disappear, the tax base
shrinks, technological skill migrate abroad.  And, even worse, as the labour
force ages the technology of designing and making things begins to erode
simply because there are fewer and fewer entry level positions for new
workers who can learn from the older workers.  The older workers are gone,
many of the industries are in a slump or are gone and so yes there is
trouble.  (of course you can add to this the financial debacle; Afghanistan,
etc.)

 

So we should listen very carefully to those who put forward policies to make
the US competitive again.  I don't see anything just yet beyond the
chestnuts of increased productivity, "smart" innovation, more technology,
etc.  

 

Arthur

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:32 AM
To: Keith Hudson; RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Trouble, trouble and more trouble

 

Good morning (over here) Keith,

 

I'm not denying that the availability of new status goods have had a
significant effect in determining economic behaviour, but I think a great
deal also depends on how people feel about their world and their ability to
do things that can effect it positively.  Right now, we are living through a
period of doom and gloom compared to how we felt, say, a decade ago and we
feel there isn't much we can do about it.  People, governments and the
economy in general are over leveraged and the value of most peoples prime
asset, housing, is falling.  Unemployment is high and many people of prime
working age have dropped out of the labour force.  Some commentators tell us
that we are into a double-dip recession, while others tell us to forget
about double dip, we are into a recession that will not end for a long time.
Non-economic factors feed the dark mood: the high hopes of military action
in Iraq and Afghanistan are crashing to the ground.

 

At a time like this, one has to try very very hard to remain optimistic.  No
dark age has lasted forever and I'm hopeful that we'll see this one move on
as well.

 

Ed

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Keith Hudson <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME <mailto:[email protected]>
DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION 

Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:34 AM

Subject: Re: [Futurework] Trouble, trouble and more trouble

 

Ed,

Yes, a good article.

My hypothesis, as you know, is that from about the 1980s there were no more
uniquely new (mass producible) status goods to motivate the masses. This was
the real, underlying reason why credit expanded so enormously at that time.
However, whether one believes that my view is correct or not, there still
remains the problem that the Western industrial economy seems to have
reached structural buffers in employment, as Steven Pearlstein well
describes. There are no resource constraints -- so far -- to account for
this.

Meanwhile, the birth rate of the advanced countries is declining fast. Even
if an amazing new technology with a full-employment structure were to be
presented to us right now, we (parents or governments) couldn't afford to
educate our children to the higher standards that would be required. The
only solution I can think of -- and it's one I don't like -- is that the 20%
or so of the population who are still thriving in today's (and tomorrow's)
recession, and can afford to educate their children in the best schools and
universities, will have more children in the coming years and reverse the
negative replacement trend. There is anecdotal evidence (enough to convince
me) that this trend is already starting. (It's in the category of being
fashionable at present.) But there is no hard evidence as yet that this is a
real trend. 

Keith  


At 15:12 08/09/2010 -0400, you wrote:



>From the Washington Post
 
Ed

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The bleak truth about unemployment




By  <http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/articles/steven+pearlstein/>
Steven Pearlstein
Tuesday, September 7, 2010; 9:04 PM 

Somewhere between the rantings of the Republican right, which is peddling
the nonsense that excessive government spending is to blame for high
unemployment, and the Democratic left, which clings to the false hope that
another helping of fiscal stimulus is all that is needed to get millions of
Americans permanently back to work, is this stubborn reality: 

 

Snip, snip, snip 



In this election season, the politicians who are really serious about
creating jobs and bringing down
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/03/AR201009030
1979.html> unemployment won't be the ones screaming about tax cuts, or
stimulus or some imagined government takeover of the economy. They'll be the
ones talking about how to make the American economy competitive again. 


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