Ray, when I was a kid I was going to become the world's greatest artist, 
driving fast cars, dating fast women and living on the Riviara.  Failing that, 
I took a very long step down and became an economist.

Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Harrell 
  To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] Professional Ethics (of economists)


  I should start reading from the top.   I come in after teaching a class until 
nine and find that Ed commented on bedbugs first.   Either he's an artist or 
I'm an economist. 

   

  REH

   

  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:18 PM
  To: [email protected]; RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] Professional Ethics (of economists)

   

  Rat farming?  How about bedbugs?  They're making a comeback.

   

  Ed

   

   

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: "Mike Spencer" <[email protected]>

  To: <[email protected]>

  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:30 PM

  Subject: [Futurework] Re: Professional Ethics (of economists)

   

  > 
  > Last night, I commented on Tom's reference:
  > 
  >>> http://ecologicalheadstand.blogspot.com/2011/09/professional-ethics.html
  >>
  >>   Over the past 30 years, the economics discipline has been
  >>   systematically subverted....Many of the most prominent economists
  >>   in America are now paid to testify in Congress, to serve on boards
  >>   of directors, testify in antitrust cases and regulatory
  >>   proceedings, and to give speeches to the companies and industries
  >>   they study and write about with supposed objectivity. This is not
  >>   a marginal activity; it is now an industry, run by a half dozen
  >>   large companies.
  >>
  >> I didn't know that.  Why does that remind me somehow of the privatized
  >> prison industry? 
  > 
  > Saw this on Slash/dot:
  > 
  >    How Bug Bounties Are Like Rat Farming 104 
  > 
  >    Posted by timothy on Tuesday September 20, @11:00AM 
  >    from the first-we-hypothesize-a-problem dept. 
  > 
  >    Gunkerty Jeb writes "In a keynote speech at the United Security
  >    Summit, Stephen Dubner, co-author of Freakonomics, drew parallels
  >    between the increasingly popular (and successful) practice of
  >    software vendors offering bug bounties and a new industry
  >    springing up in Johannesburg, South Africa, where the population
  >    has recently found itself beset with a growing rat problem. In
  >    order to help mitigate their rodent problem, officials in
  >    Johannesburg began offering a small monetary rewards for each dead
  >    rat turned in. It was wildly successful, and it didn't take long
  >    for fresh batch of entrepreneurs to pop up and exploit the
  >    situation. Of course, I'm talking about rat farming. Evidently,
  >    business minded individuals have taken to breeding rats, only to
  >    kill them and turn them in for rewards.  Obviously, rat farming is
  >    somewhat unscrupulous, but security researchers are doing the same
  >    thing: breeding bugs in the lab, then leading them to the
  >    slaughter for a nice payday.  And it's a good thing."
  > 
  > Which probably isn't a totally new thing [1] but a reminder about how
  > that works with prisons, weapon systems and (allegedly) economists.
  > 
  > The way it works out for (software-) bug hunting -- the relevance for
  > Slash-dotters -- seems to be free of the malignancy/fraudulence of rat
  > farming:
  > 
  >  http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/how-bug-bounties-are-rat-farming-092011
  > 
  > as one commenter there (somewhat intemperately) observes.
  > 
  > So the question is: how do you structure privatization of prisons,
  > corporatized for-fee economics consulting or any such activity so that
  > it works like bug-hunting and not like rat-farming?  Do we need to
  > somehow extract or sequester such activities completely from
  > capitalist incentives?
  > 
  > 
  > - Mike
  > 
  > 
  > [1] The Paris rat-catcher of circa 1689 in Stephenson's _Quicksilver_
  >    was already (and quite entertainingly) into rat farming.
  > 
  > -- 
  > Michael Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada       .~. 
  >                                                           /V\ 
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  > http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/                        ^^-^^
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