Mike, I knew of some of Gold's work, as I read from your link, but not the controversy. I find it difficult to believe Gold didn't take advantage of the published, though not always translated, Russian/Ukrainian research, particularly because word gets around in those circles quickly. Just as there are no borders to finance or the arms trade. Whatever Gold was 'predicting' about the reserves was unlikely to be confirmed by USSR-controlled scientists, who would want their reserves and future endeavors to remain coveted state secrets.

Ray, Bro Jon talked about the reason behind the Vietnam war as being entirely about oil, but he described a different POV. His was focused on the US, and activities, not coincidentally, under Laurence Rockefeller, who was 2nd in charge as Vice-Governor, under MacArthur, of Occupied Japan, and in strategic close proximity to South China Sea reserves.

Here's part of his 4 part paper, which, as I mentioned before, assesses the Standard Oil group to be controlling world events:

*
BLACK GOLD HOT GOLD
The Rise of Fascism in the American Energy Business
(Pre-publication online preview excerpt)
(CHAPTER THREE)

*



/-- by Marshall Douglas Smith/

In 1945, at the end of WWII, when the Japanese surrendered, General Douglas MacArthur became the military Governor of Japan. MacArthur's assistant was Laurence Rockefeller, one of John D's four grandsons. Just before the Japanese surrendered, the US had been preparing for a massive invasion of the Japanese home islands and had stockpiled vast supplies of weapons and munitions on the island of Okinawa. Enough weaponry to invade Japan. What ever happened to all those military supplies?

With Vice-governor Laurence Rockefeller's assistance most of them were sold to the leader of Viet Nam, Ho Chi Minh, for something like one US dollar and Ho's "goodwill." Why would Laurence do that? That was US taxpayer property. Ho Chi Minh had been an ally to help fight the Japanese during the war. But the Chinese had been an even greater ally, so why didn't the weapons go to China? Those weapons might have prevented Mao Tse Tung from taking over China just four years later if they had been given to China. But that wasn't the plan. From where did Mao get his weapons?

In the 1920's an insider secret became known to a few people. It was published in an exhaustive world resources survey book written by a renowned world-traveling geologist named Hoover, who later became a US President. Not many copies were printed and few people read the book. The secret was that one of the world's largest potential oil fields ran along the coast of the South China Sea right off French Indo-China, now known as Viet Nam. But in the 1920's the method of deep sea oil drilling had not yet been developed. In 1945, the French still held small oil-poor Viet Nam as a colony. Laurence knew about Hoover's book and the off shore oilfields. The French could be driven out if the Vietnamese nationals, lead by Ho Chi Minh, could be supplied with weapons. Did the French know about this?

Laurence Rockefeller thought he could trick Ho Chi Minh by offering him the weapons to drive out the French and then in return Standard would take over the as yet undeveloped offshore fields. But in 1954 when Vietnamese General Giap finally defeated and drove out the French at Dien Bien Phu, Ho reneged on the deal. Since by then, everybody including the French, the Vietnamese, the Japanese and the Chinese had all read the same Hoover resource book and knew there was a vast supply of oil off the Vietnamese coast. Many people have wondered why the French have been so recalcitrant toward the US ever since French President Charles DeGaul wanted to pull out of NATO in the mid-1950's.

Ho Chi Minh would not let Standard Oil simply walk in and walk off with all the Vietnamese oil. So as before, any country which owns the oil is branded as "communist" since they hold the oil as "community property" and won't allow private corporations, like Standard, to develop the fields and steal the oil. In this case, young American's themselves where "hired" directly to be the "fascists" to go fight the Vietnamese "communists."

The whole 20 year Viet Nam "war" from 1955 to 1975 was an oil scam. And all during the "war," Vietnamese General Giap fought the Americans with weapons he got from Laurence for a dollar. Did you ever wonder why the US, despite, greatly superior weapons, and the loss of 57,000 Americans and half a million Vietnamese, never won the "war?" Ever wonder why the US President issued such strange "rules of engagement" for the American troops that made sure they didn't win? Ever wonder why Henry Kissinger, a personal assistant to Nelson Rockefeller spent so much time in the Viet Nam/Paris Peace talks which never went anywhere but simply dragged on for years. Maybe winning the "war" wasn't part of the plan of the Empire of Energy. Maybe the timing of the "war" was more important.

In the 1950's a method of undersea oil exploration was perfected which used small explosions deep in the water and then recorded the sound echos bouncing off the various layers of rock below. The surveyor could then determine the exact location of the arched salt domes which hold the accumulated oil beneath them. But if this method were used off the Viet Nam coast on property Standard didn't own or have the rights to, the Vietnamese, the Chinese, the Japanese and probably even the French would quickly run to the United Nations and complain that America was stealing the oil, and that would shut down the operation.

In 1964, after Viet Nam was divided into North and South, and the contrived Gulf of Tonkin incident, several US aircraft carriers were stationed offshore of Viet Nam and the "war" was started. Every day jet planes would take off from the carriers, bomb locations in North and South Vietnam, and then using normal military procedure when returning would dump their unsafe or unused bombs in the ocean before landing back on the carriers. Safe ordnance drop zones were designated for this purpose away from the carriers.

Even close-up observers would only notice many small explosions occurring daily in the waters of the South China Sea and thought it was only part of the "war." The US Navy carriers had begun Operation Linebacker One, and Standard Oil had begun its ten year oil survey of the seabed off of Viet Nam. And the Vietnamese, Chinese and everybody else around, including the Americans, were none the wiser. The oil survey hardly cost Standard Oil a nickel, the US taxpayers paid for it.

In 1995, in a multi-hour BBC TV documentary broadcast about the oil industry, the president of one of the oil companies, a spin-off of Standard, stated, ".. It was quite a coincidence, that we finished our offshore oil survey on the very last day of the war, just as the last helicopter was leaving the roof of the embassy in Saigon." A coincidence?

Fifteen years later, after North and South Viet Nam were unified and all the dust settled and most people had forgotten about the "war," the Vietnamese decided they needed some cash and would allow offshore oil exploration. They divided up their coastal area into many oil lots and let foreign companies bid on the lots, with the proviso that Viet Nam got a cut of the action.

Oil companies from 12 countries put in bids. Norway's Statoil, British Petroleum, Royal Dutch Shell, even Russia, Germany and Australia all put in bids. But when those countries drilled in their oil lots they all came up with dry holes. Only the "American" company had gushers and since 1990 has pulled billions of dollars out of their Golden Dragon, Blue Lotus, and White Tiger oil fields in the South China Sea off Viet Nam. Coincidence? Were they just lucky? Or did they know something those other oil companies didn't?

In order to cover for the fact that the Viet Nam "war" was a "phoney" war with the Vietnamese branded as "communists," and the US as a country having no intention of winning, the US would need to withdraw as soon as the oil survey was done. A reason would be needed to explain the withdrawal. In the late 1960's Standard recruited large numbers of idealistic youth who were against the war and the military draft. The oil companies supplied them with monetary assistance and organization.

Those oil-backed and organized youth became the large anti-war demonstrations of the 60's and 70's. Almost none of the demonstrators knew they were being used. Most people still believe the "war" ended because of the strong US sentiment against the "war," and President Nixon's withdrawal plan was a reaction to the demonstrators. There is too much information which explains the strange relationship between Richard Nixon and Nelson Rockefeller, the Nixon withdrawal plan and the resulting Watergate incident and Nelson's rise to power to become Vice President after Nixon resigned, so I will explain that later.

Natalia

On 9/28/2011 8:35 PM, Ray Harrell wrote:
Yes Gold was prophetic about this.   I was surprised about the work in
Russia.  I only knew what Gold said at the time.  He found oil but there was
no monetary reason not to continue what we had at the time.  There is a
tremendous investment in the infrastructure for the fossil fuel machine.

It's happened before.  Dupont got all hemp banned as Marijuana when they
were bringing out their oil based cloth.    The hemp based cloth being
developed at the time was competitive with Rayon but government stopped it
by equating all hemp with pot.   Today, in the white world there is a small
hemp industry that is allowed but if an Indian grows non-marijuana hemp on a
reservation the FBI will still burn the fields.

This material from the old Soviet Union is new to me.   I had heard from
soldiers in Vietnam about the field at Haiphong and they claimed that was
the real reason for the war at all.   I was not aware that the field was
abiotic.  That was totally new to me.

But I'm not surprised.   I always thought that Gold was probably right.   It
just made sense considering the problems of burying all of that plant and
animal matter given the amount of time.

REH

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Natalia wrote:

Confessions of an "ex" Peak Oil Believer
[snip]
You must have missed the controversy surrounding Thomas Gold in
the last couple of decade before his death in 2004.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gold


- Mike
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