People just have to update their CVs, claiming to BE MACHINES! On a more serious note, here's my take on the deja vu all over again arguments:
http://ecologicalheadstand.blogspot.com/2011/10/unemployment-machines-and-social-cost.html On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Keith Hudson <[email protected]>wrote: > Barry, > > > At 16:43 27/10/2011, you wrote: > > Ray, > > I don't think it's that we frittered your comments so much as we don't see > what to do about it. But, this is an old problem - I'm told that at one > point, there were more British Army soldiers fighting the Luddites than were > fighting against Napoleon. Mechanization and it's associated problems have > been around for a while! > > The immediate problem is that there are no new jobs being created > (possibly because, as Keith is fond of pointing out, there are no truly new > inventions) > > > Just to clarify, I've never said there are no truly new inventions, but > only of *significant* new consumer goods (that is, expensive originally > but capable of being highly desired by the masses and subsequently mass > produced). Otherwise, there's more innovation than ever before > (infrastructure, producer goods, specialized equipment, military technology, > etc). > > > and no significant wars (also becoming increasingly mechanized) or penal > colonies (Australia, the United States, etc., during colonial times) that > can absorb excess people. This, coupled with the fact that the bankers and a > few others have gained almost total control over our governments and other > institutions, bodes poorly for the near-term future. > > > At the end of the day, governments will always have control over banks > because there has to be universal laws that everyone obeys or else there's > chaos. A good example of this occurred in the early hours of this morning > (2.30am) at the Eurozone summit in Brussels when the 17 Heads of State > called the bankers into the room and insisted that they took a 50% haircut > of their greek bonds. The banks had been resisting for a long time (even > when only 20% haircuts was talked about). The politicians threatened the > banks that if they didn't accept then Greece would be allowed to default. > Several banks would then have gone to the wall straightaway. > > Keith > > > > Barry > > > ---- Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote: > > ============= > Just like we pointed out on this list ten years ago and then frittered it > away as mere speculation. It happened first in the Arts after 1929 when > there was a 98% decline in live performance and an equilibrium depression > that continued down to the present. Everyone thought I was paranoid at > worst and probably just a loser complaining about what couldn't be changed. > Now that world is on everyone's doorstep. > > > > REH > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > ** > > ** Keith Hudson, Saltford, England > http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/10/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > -- Sandwichman
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