I just caught an old interview on CBC radio (from 19440 when a "child" subsidy was being presented as a question for parliamentary debate. One perspective was that it idea was against everything Canada stood for (there were no "Canadians" at the time, we were all British subjects living in Canada)). But, I'm just saying that the people had to fight hard for that pittance of $9.00 per child per year back then and now there has to be just a hard a fight to win over some 'elected' champion to bring respite to this rising problem of unemployment or, at least, under-employment.

I still hear comments from people that they have no idea what OWL is all about. I can only think they must have very idyllic lives and must believe that those people are lazy, shiftless lay-abouts who want to undermine the fabric of their personal wealth. I can't imagine what they would say about Basic Income but there would be those who would likely go as far as to advertise it as a destructive force capable of destroying the very nature of our society.

Does blindness create greed or is that reversed, or does it all evolve from fears and insecurities in the womb and the crib?

One thing I do feel very strongly about is things will get much worse before they get better.

Darryl


On 10/27/2011 10:43 AM, Sally Lerner wrote:
This has been in the cards, and foreseen, for decades.  Predictably, I think 
discussion of Basic Income is (again) in order. Sally
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Ray,

I don't think it's that we frittered your comments so much as we don't see what 
to do about it. But, this is an old problem - I'm told that at one point, there 
were more British Army soldiers fighting the Luddites than were fighting 
against Napoleon. Mechanization and it's associated problems have been around 
for a while!

  The immediate problem is that there are no new jobs being created (possibly 
because, as Keith is fond of pointing out, there are no truly new inventions) 
and no significant wars (also becoming increasingly mechanized) or penal 
colonies (Australia, the United States, etc., during colonial times) that can 
absorb excess people. This, coupled with the fact that the bankers and a few 
others have gained almost total control over our governments and other 
institutions, bodes poorly for the near-term future.

Barry


---- Ray Harrell<[email protected]>  wrote:

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Just like we pointed out on this list ten years ago and then frittered it
away as mere speculation.   It happened first in the Arts after 1929 when
there was a 98% decline in live performance and an equilibrium depression
that continued down to the present.   Everyone thought I was paranoid at
worst and probably just a loser complaining about what couldn't be changed.
Now that world is on everyone's doorstep.



REH
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