Ed wrote:

Ed> And college degrees don't seem to matter much anymore.

and earlier, Keith wrote

KH> Most of the population of America and the other advanced countries
KH> have been dumbed down with four generations or so of state
KH> education.

I have the sense that I left public schooling at the very trailing
edge of traditional education with traditional educational values.
That this sense isn't a case of the Good Old Days being better for
every aging generation is supported by the fact that I'm just ahead of
the baby boom demographic by a year (or three, depending on whose
model you choose.)  Some of my high school classes were taught by
people in their 70s and at least one man was 80. Latin was still
offered and the classes were full.  Greek had been dropped only a few
years before.

So state education as I saw it may have been a bit weak on politics
but neither had classic subjects of study been replaced with
life-style, life skills and other feel-good non-subjects.  Every
effort was made to avoid controversy in Massachusetts public schools.
In retrospect, I could have done with more attention to the fascist
takeover in Europe and an unbiased analysis of communism from Marx to
HUAC. 

At university some of my friends were majoring in "education".  Again
in retrospect, it seems to me that they were being trained to be and
do something quite different from what my high school (and junior
high) [1] teachers were and did.  The most disconcerting thing was
that, AFAICT, nascent teachers weren't expected to to *know* anything,
to be knowledgeable about anything in particular, except the for
methodologies blessed with a nihil obstat from the educational
establishment.  I surmise that similarly trained teachers had gone
forth to fill the growing demand, replace those septuagenarians, and
teach the leading edge of the baby boom that followed my cohort.

Well, that was 50 years ago.  Henry Giroux writes here:

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/9865-beyond-the-politics-of-the-big-lie-the-education-deficit-and-the-new-authoritarianism

    Indeed, many institutions that provide formal education in the
    United States have become co-conspirators with a savage casino
    capitalism, whose strength lies in producing, circulating and
    legitimating market values that promote the narrow world of
    commodity worship, celebrity culture, bare-knuckle competition, a
    retreat from social responsibility and a war-of-all-against-all
    mentality that destroys any viable notion of community, the common
    good and the interrelated notions of political, social and
    economic rights. University presidents now make huge salaries
    sitting on corporate boards, while faculty sell their knowledge to
    the highest corporate bidder and, in doing so, turn universities
    into legitimation centers for casino capitalism.

He also quotes Raymond Williams' notion of "permanent education", by
which he (and RW) means not so much "continuing education" or
"life-long learning" but:

    What it valuably stresses is the educational force of our whole social
    and cultural experience. It is therefore concerned, not only with
    continuing education, of a formal or informal kind, but with what the
    whole environment, its institutions and relationships, actively and
    profoundly teaches.... [Permanent education also refers to] the field
    in which our ideas of the world, of ourselves and of our
    possibilities, are most widely and often most powerfully formed and
    disseminated. To work for the recovery of control in this field is
    then, under any pressures, a priority. For who can doubt, looking at
    television or newspapers, or reading the women's magazines, that here,
    centrally, is teaching and teaching financed and distributed in a much
    larger way than is formal education. [2]

In another place, Giroux writes:

    For the first time in modern history, centralized commercial
    institutions that extend from traditional broadcast culture to the
    new interactive screen cultures - rather than parents, churches or
    schools - tell most of the stories that shape the lives of the
    American public. This is no small matter since the stories a
    society tells about its history, civic life, social relations,
    education, children and human imagination are a measure of how it
    values itself, the ideals of democracy and its future. Most of the
    stories now told to the American public are about the necessity of
    neoliberal capitalism, permanent war and the virtues of a
    never-ending culture of fear.

Now this may have a faint odor of "conspiracy theory" about it.
Before you dismiss almost any analysis of social control as "just"
conspiracy theory and relegate it to the crank bin, look through your
collection of DVDs for some movies that involve a great many stunts
and special effects and see if there's a "special feature" piece on
the making of the movie.  I watched the account of making Matrix
Reloaded.  An stunning amount of time, money, manpower, special
cameras, rigging, modified trucks and cars and specialized equipment
is involved in such a feat. Those guys asked around to rent a freeway
to film high-speed chase- and stunt-shots but no city would close off
traffic for the requisite time. So they built their own 1.5 mile
freeway.  One and a half miles of real 4-lane blacktop and guard
rails, miles of fake concrete walls and bridges. Then they put enough
cars and drivers on it to simulate urban traffic in which to do the
hair-raising stunts. Okay, it grossed $742 million at the box office
and they spent $142 million to make it.

Watching that reminded me any corporation that's playing that price
range will be prepared to spend a $100 million or so on salaries,
bribes, support for favored educational or other institutions -- in
general for subversion of the public interest wherever that kind of
return can be anticipated (hoped for?) in the short- or medium-term
future. 

I think I'm beginning to wander. There's a good reason why Keith writes
his posts at the crack of dawn.  I should do that rather than trying
to marshal my thoughts near bed time.

- Mike



[1] I don't have a clear picture of the British school grading system,
    possibly because they keep changing it. Projecting my own
    ignorance: For Keith, jr. high embraces the 7th to 9th year of
    school, high school the 10th to 12th years in most of the US.

[2] Raymond Williams, "Preface to Second Edition," Communications (New
    York: Barnes and Noble, 1967), p. 15.

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