Or can we say that the meaning of pleasure is ownership of the work we do and the way we do that work; and being human is the rewards (money and psychological and creativity) we get over and above the onerous aspects.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:23 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation The meaning of pleasure is ownership and the meaning of being human is profit (surplus). That's some civilization guys. REH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:08 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation Also lost when machines replaced "guys" is another pair of eyes and ears that not only collected money but also kept a look out on events on and off the lot. The latter function is slowly being replaced by security cameras. Cameras can catch the images and store them, a person can see what is going on and help a person or perhaps deter or stop a crime in progress. Arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:39 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation Nevertheless, I feel sorry for the guys that have been replaced by machines when you drive in and out of parking lots. But I guess it serves them right for not being smart enough to get better jobs? Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Sally Lerner <mailto:[email protected]> To: Arthur Cordell <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOMEDISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation Just to go on record, I share Arthur's positive response to automation (why should people do dumb, dirty or dangerous work that can be done by machines? - science-fiction fears aside) and also his conviction that many social changes - not least in education and distribution of "goods" - will be needed to ensure the equitable spread of benefits. Believe it or not, these issues were at the core of Futurework's genesis. Sally _____ From: Arthur Cordell [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:12 PM To: Sally Lerner; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: RE: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospel of Automation The jobs gained (quality and quantity) will be very different than the jobs lost. Cars are rated in horsepower since that is what they replaced; computers rated in memory since to some degree that is what they replace...very broadly speaking. Arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lerner Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospel of Automation Well, it could go either way? Sally Sent by [email protected]: <http://i1.nyt.com/images/misc/nytlogo194x27.gif> <https://www.nytimes.com/images/2013/01/24/business/ALTROBOT/ALTROBOT-thumbS tandard-v2.jpg> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=InCMR7g4BCKrqV4D0maRnwaaECN6Xe2r&use r_id=2fa0776a7d2e523304196dad6be5dfba&email_type=eta&task_id=135905175555918 > Robot Makers Spread Global Gospel of Automation By JOHN MARKOFF Manufacturers of robots and similar machines gathered in Chicago, casting automation as an indispensable engine of economic growth. Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=InCMR7g4BCKrqV4D0maRnwaaECN6Xe2r&use r_id=2fa0776a7d2e523304196dad6be5dfba&email_type=eta&task_id=135905175555918 > http://nyti.ms/WnHr4r To ensure delivery to your inbox, please add <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] to your address book. Advertisement article tools sponsored by <http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_click.html?type=goto&opzn&page=secure.ny times.com/mem/emailthis.html&pos=Frame6A&sn2=6da5bd5a/78e3a264&sn1=cf77b99a/ 973f433f&camp=FSL2013_ArticleTools_336x90_1849313d_nyt5&ad=TheEast_336x90_Ja n23&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efoxsearchlight%2Ecom%2Ftheeast> <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACMlEhIhWVuPIxgan fKahJGpDcKtdpfztygRnz23j1z6nDpx4eAAqQbYRMMl5L56EeQ==&user_id=2fa0776a7d2e523 304196dad6be5dfba&email_type=eta&task_id=135905175555918> Copyright 2012 | The New York Times Company <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KUv6vqdu/zT/DtUzLlQEcSh&use r_id=2fa0776a7d2e523304196dad6be5dfba&email_type=eta&task_id=135905175555918 > | NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 <http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=hdaNaYedr2/IomeWRKt0nffrak8aSGLbvtkk q/r7ihwOf5XePlpJ1w==&user_id=2fa0776a7d2e523304196dad6be5dfba&email_type=eta &task_id=135905175555918> _____ _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
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