I would say that pleasure comes from growth and answering the questions of existence along with have the company of those we love. The rewards are what makes us more human and able to reach out from own weaknesses and accept help in solving our problems. The Hero's Journey comes with the prayers of the community for the growth of the Hero. I see society rewarding people for innocuous, derivative and generic effort. A good chair is rewarded, a great symphony is ignored and recognized only after the artist dies and everyone wakes up and takes credit for his nationality. The problem is ignorance as to "use" down to the seventh generation. Economics rewards tumors and cancerous growths on the body of the world. They barely serve one generation. Look at what today's billionaires have to do with their children. They hardly know what to do with them. The concept of human evolution and growth is limited to their own battle for reward.
What did the first Bach do that created J.S. Bach five generations of musicians later and served up seven generations of Bachs in the glory of German culture and rescued Germany's meager morality in the deaths of millions over supposed witchcraft. It was Bach that brought them back and according to Gunter Grass and his Tin Drum, it was Beethoven who saved their souls a second time after the holocaust and its economics. Beethoven gave them to work clean the record. I have a Jewish student who is a Director of an educational program who came back from Berlin last week. What she said was impressive and she was impressed. We both agreed as to it not happening here nor does it seem likely to happen here as payment for four hundred years of horror. Most people don't know it's still happening but even worse, they thought America was a virgin when she was a widow. REH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:39 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation Or can we say that the meaning of pleasure is ownership of the work we do and the way we do that work; and being human is the rewards (money and psychological and creativity) we get over and above the onerous aspects. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:23 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation The meaning of pleasure is ownership and the meaning of being human is profit (surplus). That's some civilization guys. REH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:08 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation Also lost when machines replaced "guys" is another pair of eyes and ears that not only collected money but also kept a look out on events on and off the lot. The latter function is slowly being replaced by security cameras. Cameras can catch the images and store them, a person can see what is going on and help a person or perhaps deter or stop a crime in progress. Arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:39 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation Nevertheless, I feel sorry for the guys that have been replaced by machines when you drive in and out of parking lots. But I guess it serves them right for not being smart enough to get better jobs? Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Sally Lerner <mailto:[email protected]> To: Arthur Cordell <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOMEDISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospelof Automation Just to go on record, I share Arthur's positive response to automation (why should people do dumb, dirty or dangerous work that can be done by machines? - science-fiction fears aside) and also his conviction that many social changes - not least in education and distribution of "goods" - will be needed to ensure the equitable spread of benefits. Believe it or not, these issues were at the core of Futurework's genesis. Sally _____ From: Arthur Cordell [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:12 PM To: Sally Lerner; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: RE: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospel of Automation The jobs gained (quality and quantity) will be very different than the jobs lost. Cars are rated in horsepower since that is what they replaced; computers rated in memory since to some degree that is what they replace...very broadly speaking. Arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lerner Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Futurework] NYTimes.com: Robot Makers Spread Global Gospel of Automation Well, it could go either way? 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