Hi Carmen, When you write:
<<<< As for kisses, here in Argentina, we are very warm people, even men kiss each other!!!!! >>>> I've ploughed a paddy field with an ox, I've climbed Mount Sinai (on a camel), I've even danced with Indian men. I've done many unusual things, but I'm not sure I could kiss a man. But I hugged a man once. In fact, I used to hug him regularly. When I was a young manager and worked in an engineering factory, I was in charge of the quality of production. So I sometimes had to reject some things that had been made in the machine-shops. Management-wise, I was the enemy of the Production Manager, Arthur Ashby, and we often had arguments. But we were friends as well. We sometimes used to meet in the middle of a machine-shop. He would be walking from one end, and I would be walking from the other, and sometime met in the middle. One day I patted his large round stomach and said that I hoped his baby would arrive soon. He laughed and we hugged each other. All the machines stopped and scores of workers all around us started cheering and laughing. So, whenever we met thereafter, Arthur and I would hug each other. It kept everybody happy. ----- I'm still reading about Argentina and thinking about what to write. Don't expect any "magic bullet" that will solve your problems, but I'll do my best. Kisses and best wishes, Keith At 20:10 23/12/01 -0300, you wrote: >You are very funny, Keith!!! Look, nothing is what seems to be. My name is >Carmen but I am blonde and don�t have a "latino" style. So, my name doesn�t >go with my face. Most argentineans are a mixture of Italians and Spanish >people. Culturally we are a mixture of andaluces and italians, perhaps that >is why we are "picaros". >As for age, mental age is what matters. Being open to new ideas is what >makes a person young. Today I don�t have much to say about my country >because as I was exhausted with our awful TV images, I decided to spend a >day out in a country house and try to avoid talking about politics for a >while (though it was not possible at all). >As for kisses, here in Argentina, we are very warm people, even men kiss >each other!!!!! I think that is nica to be able to express our feeling >freely without taking care of analising them. >Kisses again. >Carmen > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Carmen Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 10:15 AM >Subject: Kisses to you, too! (was Re: Argentina can arise! (was Re: >Argentina down and out) > > >> Hi Carmen, >> >> I have just written to Sally and Arthur to say that I will be remaining on >> FW list for as long as I can stagger to the kitchen and make myself a pot >> of tea every morning. >> >> Now that you are sending kisses -- well, that's even more reason to stay >on >> FW! I have several nice lady friends on this list but this is certainly >the >> first occasion that kisses have been sent. (I am always available for >> more.) But in case you become too affectionate towards me, please >remember >> that I am an old man with a white beard who becomes breathless even >> climbing the stairs here at home. I am not like your ex-President Menem >> who, at 68 I believe (a little older than me), has just married another >> young beautiful model. Where does he get the energy from? >> >> Well, I am still thinking about Argentina, and reading a little about your >> country. But there are several extremely good brains on Futurework List >and >> I hope that some of them might have something useful to say over the next >> few days. >> >> We look forward to hearing further from you. Meanwhile, I am now going >> upstairs to have a mid-day snooze (sleep). I am now so very old and very >> wise that I need to do this every day to keep my few remaining brain cells >> alive. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Keith >> >> ListAt 09:03 23/12/01 -0300, you wrote: >> >Hi, Keith!!! It is 8.51 am in BA and I have just get out of my bed. >Firstly, >> >I am very happy of receiving your mail, thank you very much for your >> >accurate views. I am very worried about what is going to happen in the >> >transition of argentine crisis. Most of my friends (young economists, >too) >> >think that there is no way out: they just want to emigrate and start a >new >> >life abroad. The system doesn�t work here. I mean, it is like Anne >Krueger >> >says, most people are rent seekers, the State has no autonomy at all. >> >Intelligent and honest people don�t want to take part in politics because >> >they are frightned of being involved in corruption o being pressed or >being >> >unable of changing anything at all. You talk about a desire of strong >> >leadership in my country. I agree with your analysis about strong leaders >in >> >my country. I voted for De la Rua because he was an honest lawer. But he >> >disappointed me. Our country not only has severe problems to face his >debt, >> >we also have a very strong inequality and a very high unemployment rate. >De >> >la Rua did nothing to solve this problems. And so there were people >> >unemployed for 4 years in the lower class. This increases violence, >> >resentment, social exclusion, etc. >> >Well, I have lot sof things to say about Argentine crisis, but it is too >> >early in the morning and English is not my mother tongue, so I will do it >> >later. >> >Kisses. >> >Carmen >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: "Carmen Lopez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 4:10 AM >> >Subject: Argentina can arise! (was Re: Argentina down and out) >> > >> > >> >> Hi Carmen, >> >> >> >> This is Sunday and I am drinking from my first pot of tea of the day. >> >> >> >> I am still thinking about what might be said to be helpful to >Argentina. >> >> Meanwhile, this morning, I have been listening on shortwave radio from >a >> >> BBC reporter speaking from Buenos Aires and he was saying that people >in >> >> Argentina are calling for a strong leader. >> >> >> >> Well, apart from your first great reforming President, Bernadino >Rivadavia >> >> in the 19th century, Argentina has not been lucky since then. It seems >to >> >> me that strong leaders have been your greatest problem in the course of >> >> this century! You've had a whole stream of strong leaders -- army >> >generals, >> >> navy admirals, and dictactors who've been greedy for power or money or >> >> both. Your last two "strong leaders", Peron and Menem, have merely >driven >> >> your country into massive debt. >> >> >> >> Your last President, Fernando de la Rua, was an exception to the usual >run >> >> and, from what I understand, his shy and retiring nature was the reason >> >why >> >> he was elected as a relief from the corruption and embarrassing antics >of >> >> President Carlos Menem who did nothing for your country but left you >even >> >> more crippled with debt. >> >> >> >> Now that Menem has been released from arrest I suppose that it is a >> >> possibility that he might manipulate the poor of the country (as Peron >> >did) >> >> and get into power again. Well, if he does so, he won't be the solution >to >> >> your problems. Or you might get another "strong leader" who is just as >> >bad. >> >> >> >> No doubt the IMF and finance ministers from other countries will find >an >> >> immediate solution to your debt problems -- or at least, delay payments >> >for >> >> a while. It's the medium and longer term solutions that are important. >> >> >> >> There's one thing I am certain about. This is that the solution to your >> >> problems, and the necessary new institutions that you will have to >> >develop, >> >> can only really grow from within Argentina. They can't be implanted >from >> >> outside. Within your country you will have many people of integrity and >> >> intelligence who will probably arrive at sensible solutions. We'll have >to >> >> hope that their voices will be allowed to influence those who have >> >> political power. >> >> >> >> I'd like to write some more words about what I think about Argentina's >> >> problems, but I need a few more morning pots of tea before I might do >so. >> >> Meanwhile, let's be positive! So I've changed the subject heading of >this >> >> FW thread. Argentina need not always be down and out. It can be up and >> >> running again successfully, given enough thought -- and a lucky throw >of >> >> the dice in the choice of your next President. >> >> >> >> Keith Hudson >> >> >> >> >> >> At 08:47 22/12/01 -0300, you wrote: >> >> >Hello, I am Carmen from Argentina. This tuesday and wednesday have >been a >> >> >nightmare. I am a just graduated economist and I think that the >problem >> >of >> >> >my country is not only economic but institutional. Politicians have no >> >> >credibility at all. My country is a very "special" one. We have had 40 >> >years >> >> >of inflation until convertibility arrived. Convertibility succeded in >> >> >restraining inflation but the cost was seen in the market for labor >were >> >> >unemployment raised. I am very interested in hearing your opinions. >> >> >Sincerely, >> >> >Carmen >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> "Writers used to write because they had something to say; now they >write >> >in >> >> order to discover if they have something to say." John D. Barrow >> >> _________________________________________________ >> >> Keith Hudson, Bath, England; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> _________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________________ >> "Writers used to write because they had something to say; now they write >in >> order to discover if they have something to say." John D. Barrow >> _________________________________________________ >> Keith Hudson, Bath, England; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> _________________________________________________ >> >> > > > > > __________________________________________________________ �Writers used to write because they had something to say; now they write in order to discover if they have something to say.� John D. Barrow _________________________________________________ Keith Hudson, Bath, England; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________
