Ray,

I don't disagree with what you said at all. Certainly Christians have
carried out as many moral offences in the world as anyone else, if not
more.

Bill

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:34:57 -0400 "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> In the Empire of the Great Kublai Khan all religions were considered 
> equal
> and strict neutrality was enforced by the civil authorities.    They 
> were
> not taxed to support the shamanism of the ruling class since to 
> indigenous
> traditional faiths, all faiths are given by the Creator to the 
> person who is
> born into them.
> 
> The people's of the book, you mention,  have seemed throughout 
> history
> particularly intent upon burning other people's books as devil 
> worship.
> Note the libraries at Alexandria and Tenochtitlan.    There were 
> other
> copies of Plato but today there are only two Mayan books left and of 
> the
> hundreds of thousands of volumes in Tenochtitlan there are only 17 
> and those
> were recopied by the Catholics who burned them so who knows what 
> they did in
> the editing.    Since I practice Traditional Religion of which there 
> are
> over 300 million of us in the world, I find it strange that the 
> Middle
> Eastern religions continue to chip away at us without any one 
> yelling
> genocide or speaking of our Civil Rights.    As I mentioned earlier, 
> I could
> point out many thousands of lives lost in death marches and 
> concentration
> camps in the US but we still insist that Oklahoma City and the WTC 
> were the
> "Greatest Acts of Terrorism" known to this country.    It reminds me 
> of the
> "Greatest Walnut Bowl Factory" on highway 69 in Missouri.
> 
> That is not to demean the lives lost in my native Oklahoma by a 
> White
> Militia Roman Catholic Nut or my friends at the WTC who were 
> murdered by
> Brown Jihad Islamic Fundamentalist Nuts.    Both were horrific and 
> should
> not be tolerated but the greatest evil today is the evil of the 
> "massive"
> masquerading as the Underdog or Victim.     There are nearly two 
> BILLION
> Christians in the world today with over one billion Roman Catholics 
> while
> there are over one BILLION followers of Islam.     That doesn't make 
> them
> victims in any sense of the word and their evangelism at this point
> constitutes Imperialism in the old ugly predatory mode of the past.
> 
> So let them say that I should have a right to exist in my faith in 
> their
> country in the same way they have a right to do so in mine.      
> Otherwise
> when they kidnap and aim my airplanes at my Capital my response is 
> to aim my
> bombs at their Mecca and Medina.    As for the Christians?    Where 
> do you
> aim?
> 
> At the morality.    They do not follow their own books and so they 
> are not
> trustworthy nor do they deserve to be considered so.    Just mention 
> Usury
> and watch them all turn tail and head for the hills.
> 
> REH
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William B Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: one musician and 9 11
> 
> 
> > Ray,
> >
> > Although I am sure that it would not be popular for Muslims to 
> focus on
> > Universality at this time in history, the Quran uses the term 
> 'ahl
> > al-kitaab' which means 'people of the book'. This includes 
> Muslims,
> > Christians, and Jews. Muslims believe that they were simply the 
> latest
> > recipients in a series of messages from God. Ask any Muslim if
> > significant parts of the Quran are not also parts of the Bible.
> >
> > Bill Ward
> > **********************************************************
> > I would like to hear a Moslem speak on the Universality of all 
> faith and
> > the value of each culture in the great quilt of the Creator's 
> humanity.
> >
> > Ray
> >
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