Tom,

At 05:48 05/10/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Keith,
>
>As much as I may or may not agree with your ontological speculations, my
>point was not about smuggling hierarchy back into society but back into
>*concepts* that superficially appear to oppose hierarchy. Hierarchy itself
>is a tremendously important and inescapable factor of human interaction but
>it is one of several factors that co-exist in dynamic tension. All that I'm
>saying is that we should be wary of "concepts" that promise to free us from
>conditions they don't really free us from.

Well . . . now that you've put it this way, I couldn't agree with you more.
Utopia freaks, who ignore human nature (and human history) and promise us
freedom and perfection, always lead us into various degrees of dystopia. 

>Is there a concept that could free us from hierarchy? Maybe posing the
>question in that way better exposes the absurdity of the proposition. Having
>been born an infant, I realize that my survival depended on a hierarchy
>between infant and adult. To deny that hierarchy, for example, would be
>delusional. However, my survival may also depend on not transfering that
>infant/adult relationship to my dealings with employers, politicians or
>purveyors of snake oil.

"Is there a concept that could free us from hierarchy?" Now that I read
that you accept hierarchy as part of man's nature (as is deference to it,
all too often) then I can offer a quote instead: "Man will become better
when you show him what he is really like" (Chekhov).

Keith Hudson
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