Harry,

What you are arguing is that the US alone makes or breaks the UN which
means that it already is a whipping boy. With an EU growing in strength
we may be surprised.

Bill Ward

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:53 -0800 Harry Pollard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Karen,
> 
> Europeans always blamed the U.S. for not joining the League of 
> Nations in 
> the general condemnation of Mussolini's invasion of Abyssinia.
> 
> Of course they should have done it themselves without the U.S. but 
> that is 
> in past. Yet, might the middle century have been different had the 
> League 
> of Nations mounted a blockade against Mussolini's supply of mustard 
> gas to 
> the North African continent?
> 
> This seems to me to be no mean analogy to the United Nations' 
> strongly 
> asserting their right to place competent and powerful Inspectors in 
> Iraq.
> 
> If the United Nations fail to exert to their authority - backed as 
> it is by 
> threat of U.S. force - it will indeed disappear into the mists of 
> history 
> as did the League of Nations.
> 
> If the scenario that I have supported (backed as it is by 1 percent 
> shrewdness and 99 percent hope) turns out to be what happens, then I 
> 
> suspect that the world will breathe a sigh of relief.
> 
> Let's keep our fingers crossed.
> 
> Harry
>
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> 
> Karen wrote:
> 
> >Read Safire for whom he says will get what in a post-victory New 
> >Iraq.  This column could be interpreted as a warning shot for 
> diplomats in 
> >NYC, where the pressure is on to resolve the question of a tough 
> new 
> >resolution in a matter of days .  Karen Watters Cole
> >
> >Also see Reserve Call-up May Equal 1991 @ 
>
><http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/28/international/middleeast/28MILI.html>
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/28/international/middleeast/28MILI.html. 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >'In Material Breach' By William Safire, NYT, 10.28.2002 @ 
>
><http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/28/opinion/28SAFI.html>http://www.nytime
s.com/2002/10/28/opinion/28SAFI.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >WASHINGTON -- If the U.N. Security Council fails to adopt a 
> resolution 
> ding Iraq "in material breach" of its many disarmament agreements, 
> that 
> >refusal will have consequences for the U.N. and several of its 
> member nations.
> >
> >
> >
> >The State Department cannot say that, of course, because our 
> diplomacy 
> >with Council members rests on persuasion, not threats. But should 
> the U.N. 
> >deny the fact of Saddam's repeated and sustained defiance of its 
> >irresolute resolutions, the world body will henceforth play only in 
> a 
> >little league of nations.
> >
> >
> >
> >Every diplomat knows what "in material breach" means: as called for 
> in the 
> >resolution put forward by the U.S. and Britain, that phrase clears 
> the way 
> >for the liberation of Iraq. If Saddam does not promptly come into 
> total 
> >compliance with no-nonsense inspections, we would have the useful, 
> though 
> >not necessary, U.N. coloration for our overthrow of the outlaw 
> regime.
> >
> >
> >
> >Russia, France, China and Mexico lead the pack wanting to strip 
> that 
> >triggering phrase from the declared U.S. position. If they succeed, 
> their 
> >"no" votes would assert that Saddam is not in material breach of a 
> dozen 
> >previous Security Council orders, which Baghdad would interpret as 
> a legal 
> >triumph. It would also show that Colin Powell's faith in the U.N. 
> system 
> >and his own persuasive powers has been grievously misplaced.
> >
> >
> >
> >What would be the consequences of a victory by Saddam over the U.S. 
> in the 
> >Security Council? If President Bush were to meekly accept the 
> rebuff of a 
> >further watering-down of the U.S.-British resolution, his 
> administration 
> >would become a laughingstock. Worse, the world would have no way to 
> 
> >restrain nuclear blackmail.
> >
> >
> >
> >That won't happen.
> 
> 
> 
> ******************************
> Harry Pollard
> Henry George School of LA
> Box 655
> Tujunga  CA  91042
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Fax: (818) 353-2242
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