Mike, At 13:31 02/11/02 -0700, you wrote: >Keith, > >You are confusing IQ divide with educational opportunity divide and the >fact that schools teach to the IQ paradigm. If they taught to the five >or six other intelligences that Gardiner identifies I think you would >find that the divide would disappear.
No, I'm not confusing them -- at least not in my mind. They're not the same thing, of course, but there's a high correlation between them. As to Gardiner's Multiple Intelligences, it's an excellent hypothesis but entirely fictional. It's difficult to know how to teach to them if they can't be tested -- as g can be. >You cannot use income as a surrogate for intelligence - there are just >too many intervening variables like inherited wealth, credentialism, >class (still), and the inappropriate teaching model of the previous >paragraph. I'm not using income as a surrogate. There's a strong correlation however. >There are reasons why the bell curve is used in intelligence testing - >population intelligence fits it. The Bell curve isn't 'used' in intelligence testing -- it's a consequence of it. >Mike > >PS I will be interested to see if this makes the list. Few of my posts >have done so, which is why I have given up posting. My copy has come directly from you. It's curious why your posts avoid FW! Keith > >---------- >>From: Keith Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: IQ divide? >>Date: Sat, Nov 2, 2002, 5:49 AM >> > >> For those FWers who may be interested in the possibility of an IQ divide >> within modern society, the following e-mail to a friend might be of interest. >> >> <<<< >> Already, to a considerably extent, populations in developed countries are >> dividing into two IQ portions -- let me call them "A"s and "B"s. This is >> evidenced by increasing income differentials and surveys showing decreasing >> generational movement between social classes (at least this is so in >> England and I suspect it's so in other advanced countries). Regression to >> the mean takes place in both "halves", of course, and a certain amount of >> interbreeding will always take place but, if the skill requirements of the >> modern world keep on increasing then unless basic education inmproves out >> of all recognition then the selection process within education will have to >> compensate increasingly for these effects and maintain separation for the >> sake of economic efficiency. At least, this will continue until the >> education system is no longer able to select and supply enough high-IQ >> people to keep the overall system going (that is, without immigration of >> high talent). >> >> However, it is a fact of modern life that the fertility of the As is >> declining relative to the Bs and, as complexity of modern life increases, >> then the As are going to be increasingly concerned that the whole of >> society, A+B, is going to depend increasingly on their efforts. If the As >> were ever to go on strike in the coming years then society would collapse >> beyond recovery. Rather like the situation of the hospital consultants in >> the National Health Service over here in England at the present time, the >> As will refuse to be compensated by the carrot of much higher salaries if >> they have to yield more and more of their free time in order to keep the >> system going. >> >> I believe that the As are already becoming conscious of the dire prospects >> that await them and their descendants -- never mind A+B as a whole -- if >> these trends continue. It is very clear in recent years that the As are >> already working much longer hours than the normal working population and, >> given that more and more A women wish to retain pretty near full-time >> working because they enjoy their jobs more than housekeeping, then the As >> cannot increase their birth rate with natural methods. >> >> However, rapid improvements in IVF methods in recent years means that, in >> the near future, many eggs, perhaps as many as 100 at any one time, may be >> cropped from a woman, fertilised and then selected embryos returned to the >> mother or placed in surrogate mothers (in theory, dozens simultaneously!). >> (In the slightly further future -- probably not very far away -- then >> embryos will probably be able to be gestated and brought to full term in >> vitro.) >> >> Now the point is: Because the huge investment of time, labour and >> inconvenience of natural childbirth will no longer be required, will the As >> take advantage of these getchnical developments in order to considerably >> increase their birth rates? I believe they will -- so long as the costs of >> embryo-selection, surrogacy and nannieship are affordable. I suggest that >> this trend has already started. Thirty or forty years ago, the number of >> nannies had declined almost to vanishing point -- nannies being employed >> only by the very richest parents and the aristocracy. No-one would have >> dreamed that the number of jobs of nannies would start growing again as >> they have done among the nouveau-riche middle-class, nor could have >> anticipated the phenomena of au pairs and pre-school nurseries in the >> working lives of many typical professional middle-class parents. >> >> In addition to As' desire to keep society going for their own sake (never >> mind A+B), there's also another strong reason why the As will want to >> increase their birth rate. People are living longer these days. Inevitably, >> almost everybody will end up in a state of complete dependency in a nursing >> home (quite often insensitive, if not cruel, places, too) unless they have >> enough children who are able to look after them in their own homes. Just as >> it suited peasants from about 10,000 BC onwards to have many children in >> order to help with the seeding and harvesting -- and to look after them in >> their old age -- then I think the modern A-class parent will decide to have >> more than a replacement number of children in the coming years in order to >> avoid nursing homes. >>>>>> >> >> Keith Hudson >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------ >> >> Keith Hudson, General Editor, Handlo Music, http://www.handlo.com >> 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath BA1 5HX, England >> Tel: +44 1225 312622; Fax: +44 1225 447727; mailto:khudson@;handlo.com >> ________________________________________________________________________ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Keith Hudson, General Editor, Handlo Music, http://www.handlo.com 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath BA1 5HX, England Tel: +44 1225 312622; Fax: +44 1225 447727; mailto:khudson@;handlo.com ________________________________________________________________________
