Isn't it a fact (objective reality?) that all matter is basically energy; atoms moving at various speeds and in more or less dense configurations? Ray's discussion of reality being ever changing and fluid brought to mind an article I have somewhere about the human mind being able to actually change the density and configuration of the body so that we can actually 'walk through walls'. Of course there is a growing body of evidence about the way the human body can be healed with the power of the mind, etc. Wasn't it the cardiologist Harold Benson (hope I have the name right; this is stuff from many years ago) who went to Tibet with a bunch of scientists and scientific equipment and confirmed a number of 'facts'(?), one of which was about the monks wrapping themselves in nothing but a wet sheet and sitting in the snow and ice for hours and days with no harm; they were able to raise their body temperatures with the power of 'the mind'; also, I believe there was something about levitation. And PBS, many years ago showed similar Bhuddist monks who were able to stay in a box with almost no oxygen for a couple of days.
This is, of course, right in line with stuff that's coming out now about the brain and mind and the relationship between thinking and emotions,the beneficial effects of meditation, etc., etc.,etc. Selma, having so much fun these days. BTW, is anyone familiar with the book *Mutant Message Downunder* by Marlo Morgan? Selma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] new book > Scale reality is like "scale economics." Or as you say not "one of a > kind." > > I wrote this to another of your posts about alternate practicality but the > bottom includes a part about "objective" reality. There is none. There > is agreed reality that is ever changing and it is not "object-ive" but > "fluid" or a constant reality of energy exchanges with walls based upon a > lack of information. When the information is complete (no complexity) > then we can literally "walk through walls" "beam me up Scotty." That > is the reality of the Arts and most of all the kinetic arts where they place > their life and limb on the line using that knowledge. Walking is only > complex to the child or a damaged adult in therapy. The world as a > continual energy exchange in a fluid medium which is only complex to the > person never trained in the Arts. That is why so many of the great > breakthroughs have been made by people who first discovered those in playing > an instrument, writing a sonata or controlling their body through the dance > or sculpting the air in a song. > > From the other post. > > That's because you don't work in the Performing Arts. Alternate Universes > are the tools of such things as trapeze work although they don't call it > that. Ballerinas involved with lifts and jumps do speak of life as "energy > exchange" and it is non-visual and multi-phasic. The "user friendly > writing" I know on such techniques is Peter Brook discussing his Midsummer > Night's Dream which was all done on Trapezes. People who do tight rope > work are also "familiar" with dimensional shifts. But the average person > who works in mass production and who belongs to the "mean" and who never has > a problem with drug side effects is thoroughly grounded here and knows no > other. Alternate Universes is called in this dimension "interpretation." > Like the lady who was blind who invited a friend over for dinner. The > friend came into a darkened house and stumbled. The blind woman > apologized and said: "Oh forgive me, I forgot that you were handicapped." > What is believed is that we know the world that they both inhabit and that > it is the world of mutual agreement or as Harry says, "objective reality" > but in the brains of both people the worlds were objective to them but not > to each other. They literally inhabited different physical universes. > Like Bees and Dogs. > > > REH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Selma Singer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Futurework] new book > > > > Ray, > > > > I'm not sure what you mean by "reality of scale". > > > > However, you say "we believe in a constantly changing mutual agreement as > > to what constitutes reality". That confirmed reality is surely objective. > > > > So, we agree. > > > > Harry > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > Ray wrote: > > > > >So we may be getting down to the crux of the matter on all of this George > > >stuff. Harry believes in a "reality of scale." The rest of us do > > >not. Instead we believe in a constantly changing mutual agreement as > to > > >what constitutes reality from the subjective realities that are the > worlds > > >that we each deal from. 19th century versus 20th century thought. So > it > > >has nothing to do with the efficacy of all of the stories as science but > > >instead as the political reality of whose story will end up on top. > > >Interesting. > > > > > >REH > > > > > > > > **************************************************** > > Harry Pollard > > Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles > > Box 655 Tujunga CA 91042 > > Tel: (818) 352-4141 -- Fax: (818) 353-2242 > > http://home.attbi.com/~haledward > > **************************************************** > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.484 / Virus Database: 282 - Release Date: 5/27/2003 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
