[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I give up. I am bushed out thinking up bush repartee.

I believe it was Huck Finn who said


We ambushcaded the A-rabs.

But I forget what he was talking about there near
Cairo (Ohio, not Egypt).

Anyway, the Prioress's piece was lovely -- but we know that
Protestants do not believe in mediation of God's word.
As Martin Luther said when he nailed up the 96th Thesis
("Saddam Hussein is a threat to all free people
and must be removed by force is he won't leave by himself.")
on the door of the U.N. building:

Here I stand, I can do no other.

\brad mccormick


-----Original Message----- *From:* Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Saturday, June 07, 2003 3:01 PM *To:* Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] Cloistered or not?

Or she is beating the Bush directly.
REH


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She clearly has stopped beating around the bush.

            -----Original Message-----
            *From:* Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
            *Sent:* Saturday, June 07, 2003 2:55 PM
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Arthur,
Maybe she's decided to come out of the Hiding Bushes.
REH


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This is significant. This is part of the Bush base.
arthur


                    -----Original Message-----
                    *From:* Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                    *Sent:* Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:22 PM
                    *To:* futurework
                    *Subject:* [Futurework] Cloistered or not?

Gee, is it because we are both from the cloisters
and not out in the real world that I agree with this
lady?
REH
Published on Thursday, May 29, 2003 by the National
Catholic Reporter
<http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/>


                    Is there anything left that matters?
                    by Joan Chittister, OSB

                    This is what I don't understand: All of a sudden
                    nothing seems to matter.

                    First, they said they wanted Bin Laden "dead or
                    alive." But they didn't get him. So now they tell us
                    that it doesn't matter. Our mission is greater than
                    one man.

                    Then they said they wanted Saddam Hussein, "dead or
                    alive." He's apparently alive but we haven't got him
                    yet, either. However, President Bush told reporters
                    recently, "It doesn't matter. Our mission is greater
                    than one man."

                    Finally, they told us that we were invading Iraq to
                    destroy their weapons of mass destruction. Now they
                    say those weapons probably don't exist. Maybe never
                    existed. Apparently that doesn't matter either.

Except that it does matter.

                    I know we're not supposed to say that. I know it's
                    called "unpatriotic."

But it's also called honesty. And dishonesty matters.

                    It matters that the infrastructure of a foreign
                    nation that couldn't defend itself against us has
                    been destroyed on the grounds that it was a military
                    threat to the world.

                    It matters that it was destroyed by us under a new
                    doctrine of "pre-emptive war" when there was
                    apparently nothing worth pre-empting.

                    It surely matters to the families here whose sons
                    went to war to make the world safe from weapons of
                    mass destruction and will never come home.

                    It matters to families in the United States whose
                    life support programs were ended, whose medical
                    insurance ran out, whose food stamps were cut off,
                    whose day care programs were eliminated so we could
                    spend the money on sending an army to do what did
                    not need to be done.

                    It matters to the Iraqi girl whose face was burned
                    by a lamp that toppled over as a result of a U.S.
                    bombing run.

                    It matters to Ali, the Iraqi boy who lost his family
                    - and both his arms - in a U.S. air attack.

                    It matters to the people in Baghdad whose water
                    supply is now fetid, whose electricity is gone,
                    whose streets are unsafe, whose 158 government
                    ministries' buildings and all their records have
                    been destroyed, whose cultural heritage and social
                    system has been looted and whose cities teem with
                    anti-American protests.

                    It matters that the people we say we "liberated" do
                    not feel liberated in the midst of the lawlessness,
                    destruction and wholesale social suffering that
                    so-called liberation created.

                    It matters to the United Nations whose integrity was
                    impugned, whose authority was denied, whose
                    inspection teams are even now still being overlooked
                    in the process of technical evaluation and disarmament.

                    It matters to the reputation of the United States in
                    the eyes of the world, both now and for decades to
                    come, perhaps.

                    And surely it matters to the integrity of this
                    nation whether or not its intelligence gathering
                    agencies have any real intelligence or not before we
                    launch a military armada on its say-so.

                    And it should matter whether or not our government
                    is either incompetent and didn't know what they were
                    doing or were dishonest and refused to say. The
                    unspoken truth is that either as a people we were
                    misled, or we were lied to, about the real reason
                    for this war. Either we made a huge - and
                    unforgivable - mistake, an arrogant or ignorant
                    mistake, or we are swaggering around the world like
                    a blind giant, flailing in all directions while the
                    rest of the world watches in horror or in ridicule.

                    If Bill Clinton's definition of "is" matters, surely
                    this matters. If a president's sex life matters,
                    surely a president's use of global force against
                    some of the weakest people in the world matters. If
                    a president's word in a court of law about a private
                    indiscretion matters, surely a president's word to
                    the community of nations and the security of
                    millions of people matters.

                    And if not, why not? If not, surely there is
                    something as wrong with us as citizens, as thinkers,
                    as Christians as there must be with some facet of
                    the government. If wars that the public says are
                    wrong yesterday - as over 70% of U.S. citizens did
                    before the attack on Iraq - suddenly become "right"
                    the minute the first bombs drop, what kind of
                    national morality is that?

                    Of what are we really capable as a nation if the
                    considered judgment of politicians and people around
                    the world means nothing to us as a people?

                    What is the depth of the American soul if we can
                    allow destruction to be done in our name and the
                    name of "liberation" and never even demand an
                    accounting of its costs, both personal and public,
                    when it is over?

                    We like to take comfort in the notion that people
                    make a distinction between our government and
                    ourselves. We like to say that the people of the
                    world love Americans, they simply mistrust our
                    government. But excoriating a distant and anonymous
                    "government" for wreaking rubble on a nation in
                    pretense of good requires very little of either
                    character or intelligence.

                    What may count most, however, is that we may well be
                    the ones Proverbs warns when it reminds us: "Kings
                    take pleasure in honest lips; they value the one who
                    speaks the truth." The point is clear: If the people
                    speak and the king doesn't listen, there is
                    something wrong with the king. If the king acts
                    precipitously and the people say nothing, something
                    is wrong with the people.

                    It may be time for us to realize that in a country
                    that prides itself on being democratic, we are our
                    government. And the rest of the world is figuring
                    that out very quickly.

>From where I stand, that matters.

                    /A Benedictine Sister of Erie, Sister Joan is a
                    best-selling author and well- known international
                    lecturer. She is founder and executive director of
                    Benetvision: A Resource and Research Center for
                    Contemporary Spirituality
                    <http://www.benetvision.org/> , and past president
                    of the Conference of American Benedictine Prioresses
                    and the Leadership Conference of Women Religious.
                    Sister Joan has been recognized by universities and
                    national organizations for her work for justice,
                    peace and equality for women in the Church and
                    society. She is an active member of the
                    International Peace Council./



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  Let your light so shine before men,
              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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