[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is significant. This is part of the Bush base.
arthur

This lady does not sound at all to me like part of "the Bush base".

There are, we all know, nuanced minds in
the Catholic Church, even though we may be puzzled
how they "keep it all together".  I am thinking
particularly of Walter Ong, a Jesuit scholar of
communication theory, and Jacdques Ellul, a highly
incisive critical theorist of technology and society.
(Then there's Josef Pieper, the person who ~naively~
argued that Leisure is the basis fo culture....)

The Roman Catholic Church is not in general a
fundamentalist church, as I understand
it.  Galileo probably would not
have gotten in trouble had he exercised better
sense.

I think the Bush base is more in *Protestant* fundamentalism.
I don't know much about Luther or Calvin, but am I
wrong to think they were anti-intellectuals?

"Yours in discourse...."

\brad mccormick


-----Original Message----- *From:* Ray Evans Harrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:22 PM *To:* futurework *Subject:* [Futurework] Cloistered or not?

Gee, is it because we are both from the cloisters and not out in the
real world that I agree with this lady?
REH
Published on Thursday, May 29, 2003 by the National Catholic
Reporter <http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/>


    Is there anything left that matters?
    by Joan Chittister, OSB

    This is what I don't understand: All of a sudden nothing seems to
    matter.

    First, they said they wanted Bin Laden "dead or alive." But they
    didn't get him. So now they tell us that it doesn't matter. Our
    mission is greater than one man.

    Then they said they wanted Saddam Hussein, "dead or alive." He's
    apparently alive but we haven't got him yet, either. However,
    President Bush told reporters recently, "It doesn't matter. Our
    mission is greater than one man."

    Finally, they told us that we were invading Iraq to destroy their
    weapons of mass destruction. Now they say those weapons probably
    don't exist. Maybe never existed. Apparently that doesn't matter
    either.

Except that it does matter.

    I know we're not supposed to say that. I know it's called
    "unpatriotic."

But it's also called honesty. And dishonesty matters.

    It matters that the infrastructure of a foreign nation that couldn't
    defend itself against us has been destroyed on the grounds that it
    was a military threat to the world.

    It matters that it was destroyed by us under a new doctrine of
    "pre-emptive war" when there was apparently nothing worth pre-empting.

    It surely matters to the families here whose sons went to war to
    make the world safe from weapons of mass destruction and will never
    come home.

    It matters to families in the United States whose life support
    programs were ended, whose medical insurance ran out, whose food
    stamps were cut off, whose day care programs were eliminated so we
    could spend the money on sending an army to do what did not need to
    be done.

    It matters to the Iraqi girl whose face was burned by a lamp that
    toppled over as a result of a U.S. bombing run.

    It matters to Ali, the Iraqi boy who lost his family - and both his
    arms - in a U.S. air attack.

    It matters to the people in Baghdad whose water supply is now fetid,
    whose electricity is gone, whose streets are unsafe, whose 158
    government ministries' buildings and all their records have been
    destroyed, whose cultural heritage and social system has been looted
    and whose cities teem with anti-American protests.

    It matters that the people we say we "liberated" do not feel
    liberated in the midst of the lawlessness, destruction and wholesale
    social suffering that so-called liberation created.

    It matters to the United Nations whose integrity was impugned, whose
    authority was denied, whose inspection teams are even now still
    being overlooked in the process of technical evaluation and
    disarmament.

    It matters to the reputation of the United States in the eyes of the
    world, both now and for decades to come, perhaps.

    And surely it matters to the integrity of this nation whether or not
    its intelligence gathering agencies have any real intelligence or
    not before we launch a military armada on its say-so.

    And it should matter whether or not our government is either
    incompetent and didn't know what they were doing or were dishonest
    and refused to say. The unspoken truth is that either as a people we
    were misled, or we were lied to, about the real reason for this war.
    Either we made a huge - and unforgivable - mistake, an arrogant or
    ignorant mistake, or we are swaggering around the world like a blind
    giant, flailing in all directions while the rest of the world
    watches in horror or in ridicule.

    If Bill Clinton's definition of "is" matters, surely this matters.
    If a president's sex life matters, surely a president's use of
    global force against some of the weakest people in the world
    matters. If a president's word in a court of law about a private
    indiscretion matters, surely a president's word to the community of
    nations and the security of millions of people matters.

    And if not, why not? If not, surely there is something as wrong with
    us as citizens, as thinkers, as Christians as there must be with
    some facet of the government. If wars that the public says are wrong
    yesterday - as over 70% of U.S. citizens did before the attack on
    Iraq - suddenly become "right" the minute the first bombs drop, what
    kind of national morality is that?

    Of what are we really capable as a nation if the considered judgment
    of politicians and people around the world means nothing to us as a
    people?

    What is the depth of the American soul if we can allow destruction
    to be done in our name and the name of "liberation" and never even
    demand an accounting of its costs, both personal and public, when it
    is over?

    We like to take comfort in the notion that people make a distinction
    between our government and ourselves. We like to say that the people
    of the world love Americans, they simply mistrust our government.
    But excoriating a distant and anonymous "government" for wreaking
    rubble on a nation in pretense of good requires very little of
    either character or intelligence.

    What may count most, however, is that we may well be the ones
    Proverbs warns when it reminds us: "Kings take pleasure in honest
    lips; they value the one who speaks the truth." The point is clear:
    If the people speak and the king doesn't listen, there is something
    wrong with the king. If the king acts precipitously and the people
    say nothing, something is wrong with the people.

    It may be time for us to realize that in a country that prides
    itself on being democratic, we are our government. And the rest of
    the world is figuring that out very quickly.

>From where I stand, that matters.

    /A Benedictine Sister of Erie, Sister Joan is a best-selling author
    and well- known international lecturer. She is founder and executive
    director of Benetvision: A Resource and Research Center for
    Contemporary Spirituality <http://www.benetvision.org/> , and past
    president of the Conference of American Benedictine Prioresses and
    the Leadership Conference of Women Religious. Sister Joan has been
    recognized by universities and national organizations for her work
    for justice, peace and equality for women in the Church and society.
    She is an active member of the International Peace Council./



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              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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