Osiyo,

Salvador,

See below

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salvador S�nchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work


> Is it wrong to express an opinion, sir?

Opinions are encouraged.  Opinions is second languages are admired.

> I think I have to go back to my English classes, Mr. Evans, because I
could
> not understand what's the point in your message.

1. There is a lot of information on the Internet about effects of
deprivation
and abuse in early childhood development.   Why do we still drag out the
old tired arguments?

2. Different disciplines tend to look at the world only through their own
limitations and then create societal nightmares for those of us not in
their little, limited universe.

3. Although I am not a Marxist, those who criticize him often fail
because they are too lazy to create a universe as broad and complete
as he did.  (I bring this up to taunt the capitalists who I admire even
less than communists.)

4. Americans are mockingbirds imitating everyone else's song
and that is largely because they are stuck in 19th century arguments.
I allude to the fact that they must have listened to too much music
by the Beatles and therefore their brains are deficient from
lack of stimulation.

My fault, of course. Maybe
> I'll also go back to the writings of R. Spitz that I read in the 70's.

Spitz is a good place to begin but there is a lot of new information
from the MRI studies that were done on feral children.   There is
not as much as there could be if it was less threatening in its
implications.   The researchers complain about the inability to
get funding.

Ray Evans Harrell


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Salvador R. S�nchez Guti�rrez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Harry Pollard"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work
>
>
> > Opinion is one thing but there is an awful lot of scientific studies
that
> > have been done on the effects on the brain of childhood deprivation and
> > abuse.   Many are available on the internet.   In one way or another it
> > doesn't matter what the system is if your humans are flawed from
> >inadequate early childhood education.   Their brains are malformed
>> and the only hope is the next generation.  Witness the Rock and Roll
>> generation that has such an inadequate response to acoustical forms
>> that were strong prior to world war
> > II and the massive war damage.   These are not new studies.   They go
all
> > the way back to Rene Spitz.    What is amazing is how the different
> > professions only work in their little worlds and basically develop an
> > unbalanced societal system with no overall systems theory.
> >
> > That was why Marx succeeded as well as he did.    It was not that he was
> > right but only that he was the single theoretician who dealt with the
> > whole social system.   History will not deal badly with him and the
Soviet
> >System will have a greater place in history than we give it today.   Not
for its
> > failures which are obvious but for its successes that we don't come up
to.
> > Witness that we still use Russian Art as the music for July 4th when we
> > have great American composers, one who even wrote a masterpiece called
July
> > 4th.  But we aren't capable of hearing it due to our simplified "Beatle
Brains."
> >
> > REH


> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Salvador R. S�nchez Guti�rrez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 12:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work
> >
> >
> > > Sure. Why not? But I don�t think it's a question of economic systems.
I
> > > think that it have to do with power, and the kind of person someone
has
> to
> > > be in order to get access to power. Hypothesis: the more power is at
> > stake,
> > > the higher the possibility of finding sociopaths or psychopaths in the
> > race.
> > > Salvador
> > >
> > > From: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Salvador S�nchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work
> > >
> > >
> > > Salvador,
> > >
> > > Of course these same people would head the controlled economy in a
> > > socialist system.
> > >
> > > Capitalism and Socialism are, of course, comparable.
> > >
> > > Harry
> > > -------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Salvador wrote:
> > >
> > > >Sounds terrible, but experience -this side of the border too- tells
me
> > that
> > > >you are right.
> > > >Is it possible in today business environment to be "functional"
acting
> as
> > a
> > > >healthy person? I don�t think so.
> > > >
> > > >salvador
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > My impression is that most who make it big in the present business
> > > > > atmosphere are sociopaths or psychopaths.  Dangerous.  But
sometimes
> > > very
> > > > > rich and powerful so much so that no one really talks about it
until
> > of
> > > > > course they cross the line and break one law or another.
> > > > >
> > > > > arthur
>
>
>

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