Hi Chris,

Much as I have often admired your postings, and can even greatly
appreciate your skepticism around the motivations of science and
corporatism to abuse meditation for the purpose of even more control
of the masses, I would suggest that those in seeming power have been
promoting this kind of stress reduction for about two decades or so.

The Rockefeller Foundation has been contributing to every organized
religion and spiritual group of any significance world-wide for decades
more.
It is in their best interests to ensure an opiate for the worker drones who
enable them to be so wealthy that they can make a contribution to that
many groups. Bill Gates is the new money on the block, and cannot
compare with Rockefeller input into control.

That being said, what else is new? I'm saying, until greed is overcome,
this kind of agenda will be prevalent. The papacy's possible collaboration
with Monsanto is a prime example of cult behavior doing what it does best--
accepting donations in return for broadcasting corporate agenda.

The proposal to introduce meditation into early education is not cause for
fear unless there is an ulterior motive to indoctrinate malleable minds to a
specific religion in the process. The meditation process can take different
paths, but the universal objective is inner peace. Some can do that, to the
extent that the individual experiences it, in deeply quiet moments to feel a
oneness with life, while others may believe that inner peace comes from
communication with "Creation" Itself. There are variations, yet those who
practice meditation will collectively tell you that their lives have meaning
despite pressure to succumb to linear thought. Moment-to-moment choice
for peace or love cannot possibly be disillusioned because you invest
in the inherent value of humanity and all life, with respect and
appreciation.
This raises you and those with whom you commune into a place of grace
for lack of a better word. It is a distinctive shift into a realm of true
creativity--
spiritual communication, in which all things are possible. What are these
possibilities,
you may ask. Your corrected perceptions about yourself and your fellow
humans,
as well as your universe. With the possibility of a generation being
encouraged to
seek out peaceful solutions to conflict, I doubt that that would necessarily
translate to
a control issue.

In my own experience, meditation has definitely changed my life in order
to perceive and experience greater possibilities. I'm more calm, more
patient,
more confident, more resourceful, kinder, less judgmental, less afraid,
etc., but
this does not mean that should someone attack me physically, that I would
not
respond to defend myself. I would be doing a disservice to both myself and
my
attacker if I did nothing. So with the bear you claimed Selma should
meditate
away. Meditation allows you to look at things differently than they appear,
and
helps you to consider alternatives to the typical fear response programming
that we've been taught. If the only option is to defeat or kill the bear,
then we
kill ourselves ultimately. What I mean here is that every time that violence
is
viewed as the only solution to a problem, another part of us dies along with
the
defeated, and our own sense of freedom is sent further along the oppressive
road
of guilt. Guilt just breeds more fear. But the Buddhist will tell you that
the bear is
just imagined within an illusory world anyway, so it's not Selma ignoring
reality
that needs to be addressed, but your own habitual imaginings that have
misused
the bear to try to suppress Selma's creative process.

Within recent HIStory it is, with the exception of a few mostly unknown
compassionate tribal people, hard to make example of spiritual enlightenment
leading to freedom of a recognized nation. However, before men took over,
and
matriarchy was the way of life, spirituality was the pulse and respect for
life an integral part
of its success. Alas, as we know, those without respect for life engaged in
un-
provoked attacks for personal or tribal gain, and muscle replaced higher
thought as power. Power-over will innevitably fail because it is not based
in the ideals of
spirit or human dignity. Such ideals are based in truth, and that is our
destiny. Focusing
our energies on cultivating these ideals will in time provide the only real
basis for freedom.

I relate to Selma's frustrations in her past efforts to keep on track with
input into
"Ideal World". The distractive posturing is sometimes interesting, amusing
and thought
provoking, but anathema to the goal of a bunch of people who are keenly
interested in
educating and changing the world for the better. What is quite typical is
some breakdown
in relations, just like the politicians we love to criticize, and in the end
the good intentions
get put aside. If more people meditated, focus and productivity would not be
a problem,
nor would communication.

Natalia










----- Original Message -----
From: Christoph Reuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:09 AM
Subject: [Futurework] "Spiritualität macht frei" ? (was Re: NYTArticle: Is
Buddhism Good for Your Health?)


> Selma Singer wrote:
> > One of the most important cultural values that is essential, in my
> > view and as a result of my sociological studies, is a spiritual element
that
> > is always present in societies in which individuals are allowed to
develop
> > their potential in an atmosphere of respect and intimate community
> > relationships.
>
> As with Keith's "Handel macht frei", the big question with "Spiritualität
> macht frei" is the direction of causality, and IF there's a causality at
all.
> Your formulation already seems to suggest a causality
"freedom->spirituality"
> rather than the other way 'round.  Indeed, like Keith, you'd have a very
> hard time making a case for a causality in the opposite direction.  E.g.:
>
> Last time I checked, cults offer pretty much spirituality but leave very
> little room to develop individuals' potential and an atmosphere with very
> little (genuine!) respect.  As for societies, Israel is probably one of
> the most spiritual countries (with holy sites of 3 world religions,
> religious parties in the gov't, etc.), but targeted killings, house
> demolitions, crop destructions, deadly curfews and being blown up
> in buses  is not exactly developing individuals' potential and an
> atmosphere of respect either...
>
>
> > The fact that meditation is now being seen by the most respected
components
> > of the scientific community as a realistic and fruitful practice for
general
> > health spoke to me of the hope that we might introduce such a practice
into
> > our schools, yes, at a very early age, and from that many, many good
things
> > could follow.
>
> In the arena of health (or rather, illness), most of the scientific
community
> (especially in corporate science) is not really interested in addressing/
> removing the causes, but only in tinkering with symptoms without curing
> them (because only this ensures "sustainable" profit maximization).
> Promoting meditation fits very well in this mindset.
>
>
> > To ignore such evidence, and/or dismiss it as silly, seems to me the
height
> > of ignorance.
>
> I don't "ignore such evidence, and/or dismiss it as silly," but I point
> to the (mis)uses of it.  The height of ignorance would be to take the
> corporate PR in the NYT or FT at face value.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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