On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 02:51:48AM -0800, Craig wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:20:02 +0000, "Thomas Adam"
> said:
> ...
> > 
> > With ClickToFocus, see something like:
> > 
> > Style * ClickToFocus
> > FvwmAuto 900 -menter Focus
> 
> That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
> 
> Some bindings, menu definitions and:
> 
> Style * ClickToFocus
> FocusStyle * !GrabFocus 
> FocusStyle * !GrabFocusTransient

That will stop the windows from taking focus when they're mapped, but it
won't stop windows taking focus if they're via certain EWMH-hints -- which
nothing you've show here addresses, and is likely going to annoy you more,
based on what you've described.

So, here's some further things to consider:

* FVWM can to be told to not give focus to applications that request it
  through various means with:

  Style * !FPFocusByProgram

  ... disallows that application to request focus itself.

* FVWM can be told not to give focus to an application where focus is sent
  using FlipFocus/Focus:

  Style * !FPFocusByFunction

... which is OK.  But the latter is a little drastic.  Indeed, when most
people use "!FPFocusByFunction" what they're *really* after is destroying or
redefining the definition of "EWMHActivateWindowFunc", as this gets called
when an EWMH-compliant application would do something such as highlight
itself in a taskbar, etc., but FVWM doesn't distinguish whether such a
taskbar is present -- just that the event occured.  Hence:

DestroyFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc
AddToFunc   EWMHActivateWindowFunc
+ I Nop

(Blindly just using "DestroyFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc" is fine here -- but
making the action a "Nop" stops FVWM spewing errors to ~/.xsession-errors
when it tries to run this function but cannot find it.)

Note that you can see its default operation in the man page -- but the
second action it does is to request focus to the given window:

AddToFunc EWMHActivateWindowFunc I Iconify Off
           + I Focus
           + I Raise
           + I WarpToWindow 50 50

... It's the "Focus" command which causes people the most problems here.

> I just started using fvwm in order to try and reduce my irritation with
> focus steeling, well that and I've been wanting to try it for several
> years
> but hadn't the time to delve in to it's complexity.

See above.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head."
-- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.

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